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Romney Wrong That His Abortion Flip Flops Like Reagan's
Men's News Daily ^ | 8/20/07 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 08/20/2007 7:39:06 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

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To: Petronski

If only you could save those attacks for those that "flipped" in the other direction, e.g. Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Imagine that.

BREAKING NEWS! Absolutists cut off nose to spite face. Film at 11.

61 posted on 08/20/2007 10:13:27 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (Embrace converts)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
You are going nowhere unless we elect a conservative president committed to appointing strict constructionist judges who will overturn RvW.

Well, that certainly excludes Slick Willard.

62 posted on 08/20/2007 10:14:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
If only you could save those attacks for those that "flipped" in the other direction, e.g. Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Imagine that.

It's not an attack, it's a statement of fact. There is no shortage of fact out there, there are plenty of statements of fact to go around.

BREAKING NEWS! Willard Mitt Romney lied about Ronald Reagan's pro-life record to build up his sorry self.

63 posted on 08/20/2007 10:15:24 AM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Every person on that list should be ashamed of themselves. Their support for Romney is indefensible.


64 posted on 08/20/2007 10:16:14 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
Don't forget, too, that Ronald Reagan said he had no opinion on abortion one way or another when he became governor. He was 56 years old.

----->>Think about it. This is Ronald Reagan quoted above --- in his late 60's -- writing that he hadn't formed an opinion one way or another on abortion eight years earlier UNTIL HE WAS FORCED TO MAKE A DECISION ON IT WHEN IN OFFICE - when the issue of life was squarely placed before him ----> then it mattered.

That sounds VERY much like what happened to Romney.

If Rommey had been living in a cave the last thirty years the comparison might make sense. Comparing Rommey on abortion in 2005 with Reagan on abortion in 1968 as if the thirty plus years abortion war had never happened is not a comparison that is connected to reality. Even back then, Reagan did not disassemble on the subject or his history concerning it with convoluted, contradictory and tortured equivocations the way Rommey is doing right now, million upon millions of slaughtered human beings later.

Cordially,

65 posted on 08/20/2007 10:16:51 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: HitmanLV

I’m more concerned about the honesty issue.


66 posted on 08/20/2007 10:17:14 AM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not mutually exclusive.)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
You are going nowhere unless we elect a conservative president committed to appointing strict constructionist judges who will overturn RvW.

Mitt Romney appointed many judges to the bench as Governor. More of them were non-Republicans than Republicans, and included radical gay activists.

Any promise he can make now means nothing when compared to that fact.

67 posted on 08/20/2007 10:18:20 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
You are going nowhere unless we elect a conservative president committed to appointing strict constructionist judges who will overturn RvW.

Can you name me five conservatives that Mitt Romney appointed to the bench in Massachusetts?

Can you even name one?

68 posted on 08/20/2007 10:19:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Petronski

It doesn’t express my sentiment, but the women’s sentiment.


69 posted on 08/20/2007 10:21:08 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: EternalVigilance
Dang it!

Now I know Romney is the Front Runner with all this rage....:)

70 posted on 08/20/2007 10:22:53 AM PDT by restornu (Teach them correct principals and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: restornu

The orderly can help you with that.


71 posted on 08/20/2007 10:24:00 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Diamond
I don't agree at all. I know, personally, several very busy, high-flying business execs who consider themselves staunch conservatives who never even think about the abortion issue because it does not concern them, their family or their friends. It does not enter into their daily lives. It does not cross their desk. While they may be personally pro-life or opposed to abortion, they wouldn't think of infringing on another person's personal business or pre-judging a woman in that situation in a million years. That makes them "effectively" pro-choice.

However, if one of these execs suddenly became a politician and was elected and had bills crossing their desk that had the effect of saving or taking lives --- then their eyes might be pried wide open by the awesome responsibility placed in their hands on an issue they gave very minimal thought up until that moment.

I don't find it hard to understand at all. There is a big difference between career politicians who deal with legislation involving these life and death issues, life-long activists whose lives revolve around this issue and business execs completely removed from the situation who decide to serve their country.

72 posted on 08/20/2007 10:27:56 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (Embrace converts)
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To: restornu
I'd say lying about Reagan's pro-life abortion record in order to hide Romney's life long support for abortion on demand and Roe v Wade, is something most conservatives would be outraged over hearing.

When Romney says that Reagan was "adamantly pro-choice" he's fabricated a whopper of a falsehood. A first class lie.

From what I can tell, the liberal Rooty Giuliani and the conservative Fred Thompson both are ahead of Romney in every national poll released so far.

73 posted on 08/20/2007 10:30:21 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Well see!


74 posted on 08/20/2007 10:32:23 AM PDT by restornu (Teach them correct principals and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: Reagan Man
It is not out of context at all. He had no opinion late in life, and then became a staunch pro-life advocate. The point is people change and it can happen quickly.

I have never seen so many people fight against someone so hard that has converted, has acted on that conversion and now repeatedly asserts that he wants to be on our side. It truly is bordering on.....crazy.

75 posted on 08/20/2007 10:35:59 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (Embrace converts)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

So roughly 30 minutes after I asked you to produce a page number where that Reagan quote can be found in the book, Reagan In His Own Hand, you have produced nothing. Must conclude you lifted it from one of my posts. That’s okay, but its totally out of context.

You Romney supporters aren’t helping your candidate with these attempts to obfuscate the truth about Romney`s 30+ years of support for abortion on demand. And lying about Reagan’s pro-life record is an outrage.


76 posted on 08/20/2007 10:37:42 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
has converted, has acted on that conversion

What, by continuing to support the destruction of "unwanted" human embryos? By having fundraisers hosted by those who stand to profit from the destruction of human embryos? By supporting "altered nuclear transfer," which is actually the cloning, disabling and destruction of human embryos? By advocating against the Reagan GOP platform and taking the Gerald R. Ford position that states should be able to allow the killing of the innocent unborn if they want to?

What kind of a "conversion" is that?

77 posted on 08/20/2007 10:39:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (States' rights don't trump God-given, unalienable rights...support the Reagan pro-life platform)
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To: Reagan Man
That is laughable. He didn't support anything of the sort. Frankly, I think he could have cared less. He was not involved in politics. He was busy getting a combo MBA/JD, raising a family, building companies, making millions, saving the Olympics.

He was never on the frontline of this issue until now. And now he is on our side and is he the only own on our side who has the organizational skills, the stamina, the savvy, the money and the will to beat the Clinton machine. Go ahead eating our own. Yep, good luck with that.

78 posted on 08/20/2007 10:43:26 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (Embrace converts)
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To: redgirlinabluestate
>>>>>>That is laughable.

LMBO Ironic, isn't it. Your spinning of this issue and Romney's 30+ years of support for abortion on demand and Roe v Wade, its even getting me dizzy. You're hilarious!

"'I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.'"

~~~ Mitt Romney

79 posted on 08/20/2007 10:53:25 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Reagan wrote extensively and the subject and there are several books in print, and he speaks of his thoughts on the subject. Reagan had to defend himself on the subject when he ran for president in 1976 and 1980, people were not sure because of that bad bill that he signed earlier.

He was never pro choice by his own words. What he actually said was he was opposed to abortion on demand, which is the terminology they used at that time. Not the same thing.

Romney should stand on his own feet on his own record without having to drag Reagan into this. I have a huge objection to what he said.


80 posted on 08/20/2007 10:55:38 AM PDT by hoosierpearl (To God be the glory.)
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