Posted on 08/25/2007 7:32:02 PM PDT by george76
If being a patriot means defending the Constitution and Bill of Rights, why is it that every time I see the ACLU, it is attacking my rights?
Here are a few examples of the ACLU at work:
• Supporting groups like NAMBLA (pedophiles).
• Protecting obscene material (child pornography).
• Abolishing chaplaincy/religious programs.
• Against public schools observing recognized religious, cultural, historical holidays (Christmas, Easter, Hanukkah).
• Multiple lawsuits against schools, local governments (costing our tax money).
Please read the Bill of Rights, and compare with founder of the ACLU Roger Baldwin's own words: "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself, an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
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Iirc, the ACLU was founded by a proud communist supporter and the original purpose was to so dilute the meanings of our Constitutional rights as to render them meaningless.
The ACLU was founded by communists who were determined to destroy the USA. To date, I see no varince from their original mission.
The ACLU only does things of redeeming value to deflect all the evil they have accomplished against civil society.
It’s coming to that time.
ACLU caught red-handed? Changes view of precedent when it favors Christian group
The ACLU only does things of redeeming value to deflect all the evil they have accomplished against civil society.
I still can’t figure why homosexual groups are having meetings at schools. What is next prostitutes anonymous?
Changes view of precedent when it favors Christian group
“I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself...I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”
Roger Nash Baldwin~ACLU Founder
Can you dig up the quotes of his sayings about how to destroy the value of the Bill of Rights?
Thank you for the ping george.
Grimmy- Is this what you were referring to?
Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963
Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from ‘The Naked Communist’ by Cleon Skousen:
[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]
CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.
Nope, but still interesting. Thanks.
What I was asking about is a quote attributed to the founder of the ACLU. It was made at a dinner party or some such, iirc (which is doubtful, read it long ago and only vaguely remember)
It had to do with the real purpose for his founding the ACLU. Which was to so twist and distend the various rights guaranteed in the Bill of Rights that they no longer had any meaning.
Roger that. Will do and also add it to favs. Thanks.
The reason I am wanting that quote is this.
We see the effectiveness of their attacks upon reason and reality and the success of those attacks every time a betrayer buys grace by whipping out the “freedom of speech” icon.
We also see it in play every time a good man has to lower his eyes and bite his tongue and say “well, they have the right to say/do whatever they want” when confronted with betrayers and enemy sympathizing filth.
We’re losing the ability to stand up to their manipulation and our rights and freedoms are being mutated into weapons to use against us in pursuit of victory for our enemy.
30th reunion classbook of the 1905 Harvard class,
My “chief aversion” is the system of greed, private profit, privilege, and violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has brought it the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and unemployment. I am opposed to the new deal because it strives to strengthen and prolong production for private profit. At bottom I am for conserving the full powers of every person on earth by expanding them to their individual limits. Therefore, I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of property, the abolition of the properted class and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. It sums up into one single purpose — the abolition of the system of dog-eat-dog under which we live, and the substitution by the most effective non-violence possible of a system of cooperative ownership and use of all wealth.
That might be it. My mind might have transfigured the memory over time. It was a loooong time ago that I read the quote.
Thanks for your help.
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