Presidential Nominee Mitt Romney Promises to Legalize Abortion (article title)

MediaIndia.com ^ | August 24, 2007 | Kaiser Family Foundation

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who is running for the Republican presidential nomination, on Tuesday in an interview with Nevada television station KLAS said that if elected president he would allow individual states to keep abortion legal, the Washington Post reports.

Romney earlier this month in an interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos said he supports a constitutional amendment that would ban abortion nationwide. According to the Post, the "two very different statements" reflect a "challenge" for Romney as he attempts to be a "champion of the antiabortion movement".

In an interview with the Associated Press Tuesday, Romney said that giving states control to "fashion their own laws with regard to abortion" should be the "next step" in the abortion debate. Top Romney advisers on Tuesday said the governor supports a two-tiered process in which states first would obtain authority to regulate abortion after Roe v. Wade -- the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court case that effectively barred state abortion bans -- is overturned. The second step would be a constitutional amendment that bans most abortions nationwide.

James Bopp -- an attorney who has represented antiabortion groups and a top Romney adviser on abortion -- said, "There's no flip-flopping. There's no contradiction. There's simply step one and step two." Jon Ralston, a columnist for the Las Vegas Sun who interviewed Romney for KLAS, said he believes Romney's "moral positions conflict" with his "states'-rights opinions," adding, "I don't see how you can be antiabortion, be in favor of a constitutional amendment and be in favor of states' rights". [click to read whole article]

[colorcountry]

Christians know better.

[restornu]

Or did you mean hiney?

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I have no clue what you are implying JRochelle
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FOTFLMHO= Falling on the floor laughing my head off!

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Why are you JRochelle changing the meaning around on something that folks have said for years?
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To: xero
FOTFLMHO

264 posted on 08/26/2007 11:53:00 PM EDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: restornu
What is the “H”?

268 posted on 08/26/2007 11:58:51 PM EDT by sevenbak (Many things Jesus did... the world itself could not contain books that should be written. John 21:25)
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To: restornu
What is the “H”?

268 posted on 08/26/2007 11:58:51 PM EDT by sevenbak (Many things Jesus did... the world itself could not contain books that should be written. John 21:25)
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“H” Head off

271 posted on 08/27/2007 12:01:37 AM EDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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To: sevenbak
Head.

272 posted on 08/27/2007 12:03:41 AM EDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)
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To: restornu
Or did you mean hiney?

279 posted on 08/27/2007 7:10:42 AM EDT by JRochelle (“Never trust a man who makes toys in a land where children are forbidden.”)

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[Spiff]

While I used to sit on the fence on abortion I’m now totally against it.

So is Mitt Romney. It is clear that 1.)people aren't reading the entire articles and going from the MSM headlines and 2.)the MSM is trying to turn Republicans against Romney by misstating his position.

Romney wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned first. He's made that quite clear. That would return the decision about banning or not banning abortion to the states. Then, when the country is ready, he would support the Human Life Amendment which would define life as beginning at conception. Romney already believes that life begins at conception, but he knows that there is no way that 3/4s of the states would ratify such an amendment at this time. His first item of business, as it pertains to abortion, would be to appoint pro-life judges who would seek to overturn Roe v. Wade. When you hear someone state that he would "legalize abortion" or "allow abortion to remain legal in some states" it should be obvious to you what they're doing. The entire pro-life movement wants to have Roe v. Wade and most agree that would be an essential first step before trying to win the majority of states over to a Constitution Amendment which would result in a ban throughout all states.

[Spiff]

How are you going to overturn Roe without establishing the personhood of the unborn, re the Fourteenth Amendment?

How are you going to get 3/4 of the states to ratify an Amendment which would essentially ban abortion nationwide.

But, agree or disagree with the exact method of eliminating abortion and promoting a culture of life, you seem to have admitted that Mitt Romney is pro-life and will work to defend life if elected President.

[JRochelle]

It was a joke!

[restornu]

It seem like a butt end!:)

[aMorePerfectUnion]

LN,
It is the policy of FR to use the actual title
of an article, so others can search before they
post duplicates. I flagged this (actual title) because
I disagreed with the title.

ampu

[sevenbak]

You’ve got 3 Gods no matter how you slice it.

Call it what you will... We believe in 3 distinct and separate members of the Godhead, and we believe they are one, as he commanded us to be one.

1 Jn. 5: 7
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 17: 21 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

[greyfoxx39]

Is there anyone out there out there who wants to dig into the real background, or is my opinion of most Freepers too high?

FReeper fproy is asking for "documentation" on Joseph and his wives...fire away!

[go-dubya-04]

I have news for some of the Freepers out there: We do not live in a theocracy. Mitt Romney (who I am not a big fan of, BTW) can still be a Christian while supporting the fundamental principles of the US Constitution. For those of you not familiar with one of the reasons conservatives are against Roe v. Wade, it is because it is bad constitutiona law. It usurped the rights of the states to define their own limits on abortion.
We have seen that the vast majority of states would limit abortions or eliminate them altogether. This would then give us time to pass a constitutional amendment banning the procedure. His strategy is the perfect short and long-term solution to this matter.
BTW, proudofthesouth, as a new Christian, I would think that you would be a little less quick to judge who is Christian and who isn’t. “Pride” & “Hubris” are a very un-Christian character traits.

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seven,

Indeed He gives beauty for ashes. I am so blessed to be under the Grace that Jesus Christ so freely proferred. I have long ago forgiven and forgotten the past that you keep speaking of, and now struggle daily with living with present hubby of 24 years. It is you who seems fixated upon my past - - whatever scars I carry are simply reminders of God’s love for me.

You do not believe this seven, but I love you mormons, even when you are being mean and vindictive. I know where you are coming from. You feel compelled to defend your religion just as I feel compelled to join the “Lamb’s War” which is not against people, but against “principalities and powers.

Again I will turn the other cheek and forgive you for bringing up my past. God has placed it as far as the East is from the West. To you guys who are “fruit inspectors.” I will place my fruit against yours any day....and yet it is not for my glory but for His.

[go-dubya-04]

“Belief in many Gods”? Ignorance is a very ugly thing when one presumes to lecture others on certain topics. I find it sadly ironic how harshly judgemental and un-Christian many professed “Christians” are. I pray that you start acting more as Jesus would want you to act toward others of different faiths.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

gd,

And I presume you do not know that mormonism
is polytheistic?

ampu

[colorcountry]

Here ya go:

Wife	Date	Age	Husband*
Emma Hale Fanny Alger Lucinda Morgan Harris Louisa Beaman Zina Huntington Jacobs Presendia Huntington Buell Agnes Coolbrith Sylvia Sessions Lyon Mary Rollins Lightner Patty Bartlett Sessions Marinda Johnson Hyde Elizabeth Davis Durfee Sarah Kingsley Cleveland Delcena Johnson Eliza R. Snow Sarah Ann Whitney Martha McBride Knight Ruth Vose Sayers Flora Ann Woodworth Emily Dow Partridge Eliza Maria Partridge Almera Johnson Lucy Walker Sarah Lawrence Maria Lawrence Helen Mar Kimball Hanna Ells Elvira Cowles Holmes Rhoda Richards Desdemona Fullmer Olive Frost Melissa Lott Nancy Winchester Fanny Young	Jan 1827 1833 1838 Apr 1841 Oct 1841 Dec 1841 Jan 1842 Feb 1842 Feb 1842 Mar 1842 Apr 1842 Jun 1842 Jun 1842 Jul 1842 Jun 1842 Jul 1842 Aug 1842 Feb 1843 Spring 1843 Mar 1843 Mar 1843 Apr 1843 May 1843 May 1843 May 1843 May 1843 Mid 1843 Jun 1843 Jun 1843 Jul 1843 Mid 1843 Sep 1843 1843 Nov 1843	22 16 37 26 20 31 33 23 23 47 27 50 53 37 38 17 37 33 16 19 22 30 17 17 19 14 29 29 58 32 27 19 14 56	NONE NONE George W. Harris NONE Henry Jacobs Norman Buell NONE Windsor Lyon Adam Lightner David Sessions Orson Hyde Jabez Durfee John Cleveland NONE NONE NONE NONE Edward Sayers NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE Jonathan Holmes NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE NONE
* Living Husband at the time of    Marriage to Joseph Smith			References

[aMorePerfectUnion]

gd,

“For those of you not familiar with one of the reasons conservatives are against Roe v. Wade, it is because it is bad constitutiona law.”

Thanks for clearing this up for us all. We were pretty
confused before you posted! Whew!

ampu

[sevenbak]

Well, if you think I’m persecuting you for bringing up your past, I’m sorry. You mentioned it here on FR, and it was a legitimate question. Understanding ones past helps us understand ones present.

You all make such a big issue of our religious past, church history, in understanding our present psyche. Why is not the same evaluation of equal consideration?

And I don’t “keep” bringing it up, nor am I being mean and vindictive, or fixated on it, as you say.

However, if it makes you feel better, then I too shall turn the other check towards your words.

I’m glad you have found happiness, and as one who also has found happiness, I would ask that you honor us by not constantly trying to tear us down. It's a simple request.

[sitetest]

I don’t support Mr. Romney, and probably wouldn’t vote for him even if he were the party nominee.

That being said, Mr. Romney appears to be laying out what is actually achievable.

I support passing a constitutional amendment banning abortion.

However, I can also see that we’re not going to get two-thirds of each House of Congress and 38 states to go along with that just yet. If anyone thinks that that result is imminent, let me know. I’d be interested in your reasoning.

Nonetheless, in the next few years, we could see Roe overturned. This would permit states to restrict abortion. Some states would retain abortion on demand in their laws. Other states would range in restricting abortion from a little to a lot. Some states would nearly ban abortion.

It’s from this mixed legal regime that the push for a constitutional amendment will need to arise. When folks see that civilization doesn’t break down in states that virtually ban abortion, more folks in more states will be persuadable to restrict laws further. When it becomes increasingly apparent that the sky will not fall to pass a constitutional amendment pretty much banning abortion, then it will become a political possibility.

[colorcountry]

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

[sevenbak]

Very well said, thank you!