Then he is a liar when he says he is a Christian.
As my profile says I used to be a liberal and only became a Christian a few months ago. While I used to sit on the fence on abortion I’m now totally against it.
proudofthesouth,
First congratulations on becoming a Christian.
And welcome to the family.
“Then he is a liar when he says he is a Christian.”
[Are you aware that Mitt is a mormon? Mormonism
invokes the name of Christ, but their beliefs
are quite different than Christianity - including
polytheism (belief in many gods), etc.?]
That doesn’t mean he isn’t a good person or sincere
in his religion.
As to abortion, it sounds as if he has covered the
waterfront!
ampu
That’s great. As a father of 3, it’s really hard to see how anyone with a conscience could be in favor of allowing it to go on.
How is he a liar? Did you read the article?
Step 1 - kill Roe v Wade.
Step 2 Constitutional Amendment to ban abortion.
Mitt supports both. It’s not going to all happen at once. Assuming Roe v Wade gets killed (long shot) and until a Constitutional Amendment passes (doubtful if that would even happen anyway) then certain states, CA, MA, NY, etc could pass laws allowing abortion.
Banning Roe v Wade would certainly be better than the situation we have today. I don’t think any Presidential candidate is going to be able to affect a total ban of abortion in all states anyway so its a moot point.
Good for you. I mean that.
As for Romney, overturning RvW would not make abortion illegal, it would allow the states to make it illegal, which was the case before.
Could a President make abortion illegal nationally? No. He has no power to do so constitutionally. Neither does Congress. He could name SCJs that could find it to be an infringement of life, but that is it.
Murder is rarely a federal offense, except when committed on a federal employee in the commission of their job (and a few other instances).
“It’s shoutin’ time in Heaven ...” thanks be to God, sister. Welcome to the family. [It’s a great song, BTW. Looking it up on the Net under “Roppers’ or the Gaither family reunion sing-ins.
He is Mormon anyway; they aren’t Christian.
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Welcome to the ‘family’ proud! It’s the greatest decision you ever could have made.
So is Mitt Romney. It is clear that 1.)people aren't reading the entire articles and going from the MSM headlines and 2.)the MSM is trying to turn Republicans against Romney by misstating his position.
Romney wants to see Roe v. Wade overturned first. He's made that quite clear. That would return the decision about banning or not banning abortion to the states. Then, when the country is ready, he would support the Human Life Amendment which would define life as beginning at conception. Romney already believes that life begins at conception, but he knows that there is no way that 3/4s of the states would ratify such an amendment at this time. His first item of business, as it pertains to abortion, would be to appoint pro-life judges who would seek to overturn Roe v. Wade. When you hear someone state that he would "legalize abortion" or "allow abortion to remain legal in some states" it should be obvious to you what they're doing. The entire pro-life movement wants to have Roe v. Wade and most agree that would be an essential first step before trying to win the majority of states over to a Constitution Amendment which would result in a ban throughout all states.
I have news for some of the Freepers out there: We do not live in a theocracy. Mitt Romney (who I am not a big fan of, BTW) can still be a Christian while supporting the fundamental principles of the US Constitution. For those of you not familiar with one of the reasons conservatives are against Roe v. Wade, it is because it is bad constitutiona law. It usurped the rights of the states to define their own limits on abortion.
We have seen that the vast majority of states would limit abortions or eliminate them altogether. This would then give us time to pass a constitutional amendment banning the procedure. His strategy is the perfect short and long-term solution to this matter.
BTW, proudofthesouth, as a new Christian, I would think that you would be a little less quick to judge who is Christian and who isn’t. “Pride” & “Hubris” are a very un-Christian character traits.
As Marvin Olasky once said at a local Crisis Pregnancy Center fundraiser, we are presently living in Babylon and we must start where we can actually something. Giving the issue back to the states is a great start.
It’s amazing the “wisdom” that comes crashing in one second after we take that step of faith. The angels are cheering over YOU!