Posted on 08/29/2007 4:33:58 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Who said that?
I say vote them out.
If MA doesn't vote out Kennedy, that just shows how stupid MA voters are...in fact, it's my view that the ones who vote Kerry-Kennedy are the most stupid in the nation.
However, it doesn't mean all voters are as stupid.
What’s the average cost of a successful congressional campaign?
I have no idea. It goes up every year along with the rest of the economy.
Are you saying you don’t for Republicans?
I do.
[I have no idea.]
That's pretty clear.
3.8 Million dollars in 1996, 11 years ago.
Elections are a pay to play poker game and the cost of running a campaign and sitting at the table are pretty much the same regardless of whether there's an R, D, or any other letter of the alphabet following the name of the candidate/player.
I'm still hoping that the internet and sites like FR will be able to cut a few of the strings attached to the chairs at the table.TRUTH has no strings attached except the honor of those who face it.
Veritas x Honor.
'96?
So it's clear you don't know the cost of campaigns these days either, LOL.
Carolyn
Carolyn
And he was on the board of the NRA...which, plus he is a Senator from my state, is why this entire affair infuriates me. Craig has never been a very influential Senator, but has most always been reliably conservative; the noteable exception being his "stance" on the screwed-up immigration reform bill. I now wonder if he was being blackmailed into supporting it?
[’96? ]
Yes, 1996.
The figures from 1996 serve to illustrate my point just fine and I’m too lazy to dig up more recent figures.
3.8 million dollars is a lot of money, even today.
Where do you suppose that all that money comes from?
[but has most always been reliably conservative]
Is that because he holds conservative beliefs or because he was being blackmailed? I think this is a legitimate question in light of the present and past circumstances he's been in.
Exposure to extortion is one of the historical reasons for not allowing homosexuals into the military.
Duh...contributors.
Never fails to amaze me that people actually don't understand that money is spent in campaigns...big money.
And I hope a lot MORE money is spent to keep Her Hitlery out of office.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure these things out.
And are there strings attached to that money?
[I hope a lot MORE money is spent to keep Her Hitlery out of office.]
Centrist parasites like Arnall distribute their “donations” to both sides of the aisle. They attach themselves to whichever side has power. That’s a historically observable fact and you’re naive if you think you can just “vote them out” of power.
Duh again.
People spend money on campaigns. Politics 101.
I though we already established that you can't currently vote for or against Ambassadors.
All you’ve established is that you’re disingenuous,
[People spend money on campaigns. Politics 101.]
People buy and sell influence. Reality 101.
Roland Arnall paid for GW’s inaugural ball -> Roland Arnall gets, among other things, appointed ambassador. QUID-PRO-QUO.
Yes, Strings are attached.
Why...because I have to keep telling you ambassadors aren't elected?
Money buys stuff. Duh again. However, voters can vote out creeps. It's done all the time. If they don't, it's the people who are at fault.
Gov't by the people...for the people.
If they want global warming issues, they'll contribute to the global warming lobby. If they want lower taxes issues, they'll contribute to that lobby etc.
The President appoints people. It's no secret. He's appoint some moderates or those who contribute to both parties. I imagine John Adams appointed some middle-of-the-roaders as well. So did Lincoln.
Never said they were. You can try to float that straw filled red herring all you want. It’s stinky, DOA, and sinking.
[Money buys stuff]
Yep, stuff like ambassadorships and political influence.
I thought the whole point of VOTING was that political influence was ultimately supposed to be in the hands of the voting public.
Define THEY.
The "people" Lincoln referred to were not the handful of oligarchs who now exercise an inordinate amount of influence among “our elected” officials.
I retain my original position - your assertion that we can just “vote them out” is a illusionary fantasy.
Who you call Moderates I see as political, carpetbagging, whore-mongers.
We’re just going to have to disagree on this.
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