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Experts: For many gays, public sex means privacy
Seattle Times ^ | August 30 07 | Idaho Stateman

Posted on 08/30/2007 9:42:09 PM PDT by freedomdefender

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To: Bronzy

FWIW, consider the nature of corruption.

I was speaking to an older professional recently, and we were remarking how screwed up things ad gotten, with upper middle managers having been selected from ranks of pedophiles, liars, believed murderers, basically high school drop outs claiming to have Master’s degrees (from the back of comic books perhaps, or from a Microsoft curriculum).

I noted I had observerd the situation for a while, and for many years had been oblivious to the corruption that had been ongoing around me, but from my perception, nearly every person in the chain had been corrupted in some shape or fashion, but had divorced themselves from that cognizance, continueing to mature, by worldly standards.

He noted that he also agreed on the corruption, but also noted they simply also felt they were all doing right,..in their own eyes.

This simple observation reveals volumes regarding human nature, rebellion, corruption, righteousness, and why remaining in fellowship with God through faith in Christ in all things is so important.

Most of those who are ‘corrupted’(and I am not innocent of sin in any form or fashion except through Him), aren’t criminals in all of their actions and thoughts, but their thinking isn’t perfect, because they have been wrong in a handful of situations, even criminal but not yet judged or even accused of guilt. That lack of righteousness is a corruption of righteousness. That sense of ‘corruption’ even applies to their sense of good works.

All of this has already been provided for by God, in the mechanisms of returning to Him so He can further the sanctification processes in us. By 1stJohn 1:9, all we need to do is return to Him, by thinking about Him, confessing our sin, i.e. just think to Him through faith in Christ about how we recognize we had thought, decided and/or acted independently of His methods, and He is sure and just to forgive us that sin. The sin issue is then settled in a moment’s notice, but not the issue of evil.

Good and evil take time to resolve. Corruption also implies our thinking has to be rehabilitated back to the state where are not so likely to think, decide and act unrighteously agian, except this time, after sin, we already have scarred our thinking processed so that when a temptation arrises, our scarred thinking has a tendency to return to sin. Those hurdles take time to overcome, so the rebellion from Him is never profitable.

Corruption seems to be more widespread today than 30 years ago, in part because so many have strayed away from God. It isn’t the case that everybody was more moral 30 years ago, it is that more people today are corrupt and fail to return to Him. Such a condition will compound corruption and present many long term problems we and our forefathers probably have never before encountered.

The answer to this problem is simple. We return to Him through faith in Christ and let Him handle the situation. There may be suffering on our part involved, bit nothng compared to the calamities in store for us otherwise, IMHO.


101 posted on 08/31/2007 6:33:09 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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To: freedomdefender

There is no excuse for seeking sex in public bathroom. None at all. Let’s face it, coprophiles like to be around poop. It’s a sick and twisted pathology and it’s a crying shame that our psychiatric establishment doesn’t do ANYTHING to try to help people afflicted with such behaviors.


102 posted on 08/31/2007 6:36:13 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: freedomdefender

Yes—I agree with you. I think it is the rush of doing the forbidden or outrageous that drives the behavior. I would bet the people engaging in this promiscuity are a very small percent of the gay/lesbian population. Friends of ours have a gay son. He is a conservative and does not support gay marriage. He and his partner do all they can to blend in and function in the community in a positive way. My wife and I have been to dinner at their home. Sometimes they have gay/lesbian and straight friends present. Never felt uncomfortable.

With an Idaho newspaper trying to out him as gay he was playing the ultimate game of chicken in that bathroom. He will not survive the collision. I feel deep empathy for the family of this man who persists in denying who he is. Craig has already lost his standing in the community. I think he will lose his family as well.


103 posted on 08/31/2007 6:38:50 AM PDT by dooltotheend (uir)
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To: pandoraou812
They have lots of rules too.

No kidding. Here's how to wipe your ass:

Incidentally, I've been to many public restrooms in Arabia. The toilet paper and bidet are always located on the right side of the stall making left-handed use very difficult.

104 posted on 08/31/2007 6:47:14 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: LowOiL

But according to some branches of Christianity, it’s either their sect or no sects of Christianity at all. How would you deal with that in an ideally Christian nation?


105 posted on 08/31/2007 7:05:43 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Trinidad&Tobago: Proof that a Muslim minority (5%pop) causes a majority of a country's problems.)
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To: freedomdefender

further destruction of our Euro - American culture.


106 posted on 08/31/2007 7:33:37 AM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.i)
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To: freedomdefender

>> I call B.S. Bathroom sex is part of the gay lifestyle. It’s part of the pervsion, part of the rush, not a response to societal pressure. <<

I think the issue is how the eroticism of public sex emerges. Most people do get a rush anticipating the best sex they’re going to get. What’s pathetic about many homosexuals is that bathroom sex *is* the best sex they’re going to get. The eroticism of a loving, sweet wife is as alien to them as the eroticism of a bathroom stall is to us.

I think there also is a certain rush to dangerous sex for some; a lot of straight people seem to fetishize dangerous sex (i.e., “the mile-high club,” which is sex in an airplane’s bathroom), so I’m sure its all the more common among homosexuals. But the author is saying that’s not necessarily what’s going on among many gays, and what he’s saying isn’t very complimentary to such gays: their partners are so much merely sexual objects to them, that their partners are merely akin to a drug user’s heroin. The alternative means for aquiring such a partner is letting crowds in a gay bar witness each other desperately craving partners, and then being seen as others’ heroin fixes.


107 posted on 08/31/2007 8:08:54 AM PDT by dangus
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To: SteveMcKing

>> And to university professors who hide in their tenured bubbles on campuses all over the world, where they are paid to endlessly psychobabble on topics they know nothing about. <<

Actually, I think Dr. Berlin is making a scathing critique and dead-on analysis of just how pathetic such men are. I don’t think his revelations on homosexuality are going to make him ery popular at the faculty luncheon.


108 posted on 08/31/2007 8:11:30 AM PDT by dangus
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I think the partial stall walls are to allow scents to escape out the top, allow fluids (hopefully more to do with cleaning than “misses” out the bottom, and keep Elaine from having to carry “an emergency supply” whenever she goes out.

At the public university I intended, the gays just drilled holes through the wall.


109 posted on 08/31/2007 8:15:03 AM PDT by dangus
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To: pandoraou812

I am astounded at this...the cops would let you be SUED by someone breaking into your house??

I just got back from visiting Atlantic City, and NJ is certainly a “garden state” in places, but what insane laws!

Thanks,

Ed


110 posted on 08/31/2007 8:23:26 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: TypeZoNegative

>> Good. Tell us what sect of Christianity we should base our laws on if we’re going to become a Christian based nation. <<

If we don’t rely on public schools, it won’t matter. Prior to the sexual revolution, various Christian sects all agreed on what constituted public morality. (Catholic schools emerged because Catholic parents didn’t want their kids exposed to anti-Catholic propaganda as part of the school curriculum. Both Protestants and Catholics supported court cases which later became used by anti-religious forces. Catholics sued to prevent mandatory religion classes, and Protestants sued to prevent Catholic schools from receiving state assistance.)


111 posted on 08/31/2007 8:24:44 AM PDT by dangus
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To: skr

>> Hasn’t the professor ever heard of thrill-seeking and exhibitionism? <<

Yes, I presume that’s why he said anything at all.


112 posted on 08/31/2007 8:25:55 AM PDT by dangus
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To: TigersEye

>> I’m not worried about the blood. Bathrooms have soap and water. It’s all that screaming that would get to me. /s <<

I sure hope you’re referring to the tigers eating people, not people having sex in the bathroom.


113 posted on 08/31/2007 8:27:01 AM PDT by dangus
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To: AD from SpringBay

A judge in MA ruled that the State Police cannot interrupt public sex at the Rest Stops on MA highways because he said public sex is an integral part of Gay Culture.


114 posted on 08/31/2007 8:35:16 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Caesar Soze

And bath houses, too.


115 posted on 08/31/2007 9:36:31 AM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: dangus
Neither one. I was referring to this.
116 posted on 08/31/2007 11:21:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: freedomdefender
Don't liberals ever tire of being absolutely backwards on everything?
117 posted on 08/31/2007 11:23:38 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: freedomdefender
Bathroom sex is part of the gay lifestyle.

Yep. Back in the '70s I shared office space w/the 'men's advocate' (code for gay men) at my university. The guys would come in after a weekend and talk about the bathroom sex they'd had. These guys were out and several were very flamboyant. They were not conflicted and didn't 'need' annoymous sex, but they certainly seemed to seek it out and enjoy it.

118 posted on 08/31/2007 11:32:38 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: radiohead

I am sure that this articles premise is the reason George Michael (Wham) was arrested at least twice for this. /S


119 posted on 08/31/2007 12:31:09 PM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: freedomdefender

gays, experts...God, how long?


120 posted on 08/31/2007 3:53:09 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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