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Posted on 08/31/2007 6:44:12 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
Brussels, the capital of Belgium, prides itself on being the capital of Europe and of the Atlantic Alliance. The city, where the European Union and NATO headquarters are located, has no fewer than three U.S. ambassadors...During the past six years Freddy Thielemans, the mayor of Brussels, allowed 3,500 demonstrations. He banned only six...as a rule everyone...is allowed to demonstrate in Brussels.
Two weeks ago Thielemans issued his sixth ban. "Stop the Islamization of Europe" (SIOE), a pan-European organization led by a Dane, an Englishman and a German, was denied permission to demonstrate on September 11 against the introduction of Shariah law in Europe. Many European countries are introducing elements of Shariah law, such as granting welfare benefits to polygamous families, prohibiting private soup kitchens from distributing pork, banning Muhammad cartoons...
SIOE planned to bring 20,000 to 50,000 participants to Brussels from 26 European countries. The march would end in front of the European Parliament building with one minute of silence for the victims of the September 11 terror attacks in America. According to the mayor, however, the latter is an indication of SIOE's criminal nature.
"I decided to forbid the September 11 demonstration," the mayor wrote, because "First and foremost the organizers have chosen the symbolic date of 9/11...
...the true reason why Mr. Thielemans banned the SIOE demonstration is his fear of upsetting the large Muslim population of Brussels...Though Mr. Thielemans has forbidden the SIOE demonstration, he gave permission for a demonstration in Brussels on Sept. 9 by United for Truth (UfT), a group of conspiracy theorists who claim that the attacks of September 11 were organized by the Bush administration...
Americans should ask themselves whether a city with a mayor like Mr. Thielemans deserves to be the capital of the Atlantic Alliance....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
“his fear of upsetting the large Muslim population of Brussels...”
Isn’t that precisely what he should do? Upset them, and then give them a visa to go home.
Why poland ? Why not palermo ?
I think it’s a wise decision of this major to cool down these protestors. In time where peole get arrested in the US because they talk in arabian I guess we have to remind the lynch mob who is the law in town.
Nothing like free speech is there?
The Lynch Mob ?!
Read this and tell me who is lynching who
A group of five teenage girls have been accused of a wave of vicious attacks against old women in Stockholm
The girls, aged 17 and 18, have been remanded in custody for attacking the women in Tensta and Rinkeby, suburbs of the capital.
Their victims, mostly in their seventies and eighties, were usually mugged outside their homes
In one of the muggings, the girls stole a 71-year-olds handbag and pushed her down a flight of steps. In another case, a 78-year old woman was pushed to the ground and kicked where she lay.
The girls worked in groups and wore veils during the attacks, making it harder for the police to identify them.
Recently, the city of Stockholm carried out a survey of ninth-grade boys in the predominantly Muslim suburb of Rinkeby. The survey showed that in the last year, 17% of the boys had forced someone to have sex, 31% had hurt someone so badly that the victim required medical care, and 24% had committed burglary or broken into a car. Sensational statistics but in all of Sweden, they appear to have been published only in a daily newssheet that is distributed free on the subways.
Nalin Pekgul, a well-known Social Democratic advocate of suburbs with a high concentration of immigrants, is leaving her own suburb Tensta because she thinks it has become too insecure. Tensta has become too dangerous for the children, she says. Nalin Pekgul, who is a Muslim herself, has also noted that fundamentalist variants of Islam are growing stronger in Tensta. Her children come home and wonder why their mother doesnt wear a hijab or why their family dont go to the mosque. They also have heard that Muslims are better than Christians. I dont like it when my son comes home and says that Mom, we Muslims dont lie, but Christians do, because they dont have God. He hasnt got that from us . We had not reckoned on this religious fundamentalism, she says.
The wave of robberies the [increasingly Muslim-dominated]city of Malmö has witnessed during this past year is part of a war against the Swedes. This is the explanation given by young robbers from immigrant backgrounds when questioned about why they only rob native Swedes, in interviews with Petra Åkesson for her thesis in sociology
When we are in the city and robbing we are waging a war, waging a war against the Swedes. This argument was repeated several times. Power for me means that the Swedes shall look at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet. The boys explain, laughingly, that there is a thrilling sensation in your body when youre robbing, you feel satisfied and happy, it feels as if youve succeeded, it simply feels good. Its so easy to rob Swedes, so easy. We rob every single day, as often as we want to, whenever we want to.
The number of rape charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just above twenty years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six - 6 - times as common today as they were a generation ago. Most other kinds of violent crime have rapidly increased, too. Instability is spreading to most urban and suburban areas.
An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are asking for rape. Apparently, hes not the only one thinking this way. It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl, says Hamid. The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably f***ed before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries. It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore girl, I mean; says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. Many immigrant boys have Swedish girlfriends when they are teenagers. But when they get married, they get a proper woman from their own culture who has never been with a boy. Thats what I am going to do. I dont have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get f***ed to pieces.
Ethnologist Maria Bäckman, in her study Whiteness and gender, has followed a group of Swedish girls in the suburb of Rinkeby outside Stockholm, where native Swedes have been turned into a tiny minority of the inhabitants due to rapid immigration Bäckman relates that several of the girls she interviewed stated that they had dyed their hair to avoid unwanted attention and sexual harassment. They experienced that being blonde involves old men staring at you, cars honking their horns and boys calling you whore.
The official explanation given by Swedish authorities to the increase [in rape charges] is that much of it is a technical increase due to the fact that more victims of rape now report this crime to the police. There is not a hint of evidence for this explanation. On the contrary, intimidation of people reporting any kind of crime to the police has rapidly worsened in Sweden during the same time period. Threats against witnesses in Swedish court cases quadrupled between 2000 and 2003 alone Street violence of all kinds is soaring on a national level. Private security companies are in great demand in major Swedish cities, as a serious lack of police to combat rising crime has made many citizens tired of being robbed.. Gangs of 14- and 15-year-olds raping and robbing is now common in many Stockholm suburbs At the same time, the underfunded and undermanned Swedish police officers feel unmotivated to fight crime, according to a study made by police researcher Stefan Holgersson, who interviewed 2000 Swedish police officers.
One person who seems to have a decent grasp of whats happening with Muslim immigration in Sweden and Europe is Christopher Caldwell, who has written several articles about the topic, including one in the New York Times in February 2006 called Islam on the Outskirts of the Welfare State. Visiting the Stockholm immigrant suburb of Rinkeby, Caldwell asked whether something like the French riots of the fall of 2005, with burning cars and rampaging gangs, could happen in Sweden. Absolutely, said one lanky boy near the window. People burn cars here all the time. Not because theyre angry because they think its fun.
One person who seems to have a decent grasp of whats happening with Muslim immigration in Sweden and Europe is Christopher Caldwell, who has written several articles about the topic, including one in the New York Times in February 2006 called Islam on the Outskirts of the Welfare State. Visting the Stockholm immigrant suburb of Rinkeby, Caldwell asked whether something like the French riots of the fall of 2005, with burning cars and rampaging gangs, could happen in Sweden. Absolutely, said one lanky boy near the window. People burn cars here all the time. Not because theyre angry because they think its fun.
Sweden is a country that has virtually no public debate about mass immigration, which continues at full speed. The Swedish political and media elites congratulate themselves for their Multicultural goodness. If sacrificing your own children is the definition of good, then exactly what constitutes evil?
A high school teacher in Malmö discovered that about a dozen Arab students were laughing and shouting Allahu Akbar! while watching a DVD of infidel hostages being beheaded in Iraq. The headmaster didnt think the incident was such a big deal. At least 139 schools in Sweden suffered arson attacks during 2002 alone, a number which by 2007 has grown to at least 230. Such as an incident in Malmö, where three schools were put on fire during one night. Teenage boys are suspected to behind the arson. Björn Vinberg from the fire department in Kroksbäck in the Malmö area says its humiliating and degrading to put out fires again and again in the same immigrant areas, with school kids laughing at them and lighting a new one just afterwards. His colleagues have been to the same place no less than twenty times, all totally unnecessary.
From The Local, January 12, 2007: Rival gangs of 10-year-olds in the eastern town of Söderhamn have threatened to wipe each other out. One of the gangs is made up of indigenous Swedes and the other of immigrants, and police in the town are taking the problem very seriously. The conflict has escalated on the Internet, and police fear that there may be fatalities if the fighting is not stopped.
Jens Orback, Democracy Minister in the previous Social Democratic Swedish government, said during a radio debate that: We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.
In 2006, a man was attacked and nearly killed for the crime of wearing clothes with his own national flag while Sweden was participating in the World Cup. Sweden, of course, has the same Christian cross in its flag as does England, and apparently, some Multicultural youths found this to be an intolerable provocation. The 24-year-old man was run down by a car in the city of Malmö. According to the police, he was wearing some clothes with Swedish national symbols on them, and this provoked some emotions.
Not a bad idea.
"Cool down the protesters"? Maybe in old, decrepit, Europe, but not here. What these people were planning was a peaceful demonstration in support of their own civilization and culture, which you apparently have given up on. I think you have made a "major" miscalculation. May you enjoy your life under Sharia, but Americans will die before they submit like you have, and, I must point out, we already died by the hundreds of thousands, and spent our national treasure, to give you the freedom you have frittered away.
Europe is a funny place. You can move in and completely destroy their society, and be welcome. But it you cast a disparaging remark toward their soccer team, they’ll take you out!
Saudis 'ban' pan-Arab newspaper
Sources at the al-Hayat daily said it was banned after refusing to abide by information ministry orders, including scrapping a column by a Saudi writer.
The paper, owned by a top Saudi prince, was not distributed this week in the conservative kingdom, officials said.
Recent columns by Abdul Aziz Suwaid had tackled health care problems and a wave of mysterious deaths among camels.
The government has blamed about 2,000 camel deaths on poor feed, denying the presence of an infectious disease.
Other reports say the ban followed al-Hayat's disclosure that a Saudi extremist had played a key role in al-Qaeda in Iraq.
Saudi information officials have not commented on the reason for the ban, nor has the newspaper made any statements about it.
Al-Hayat's headquarters are in London and it has offices and is distributed throughout the Middle East.
It is owned by Prince Khaled bin Sultan, Saudi Arabia's deputy defence minister and son of its crown prince, Sultan bin Abdul Aziz.
It describes itself as "an independent, international and Arab political daily paper".
The paper has recently been cutting down in London owing to cost problems and relocating most of its operation to Lebanon.
Since there is media there’s people claiming that society is destroyed - only that if I go out to the city Ali the grocery dealer is still the same friendly guy and his wife doesn’t even cloak her head ...
a collegue of mine (muslim from turkey) has just changed to ernest and young.
You fanatics will not believe it - but there’s too many muslims to hate them all - it’s been the same story with the jews.
what’s the name of this awful singer who sang ‘ dear Mr. President’ ? Isn’t she banned from american radio stations ?
It's also terribly sad to see the Europeans so psychologically crippled by liberalism and PC that they can't defend themselves, or even realize the danger they are in.
While we all understand the media tendency to amplify bad news, I would suggest that, in the case of muslim extremism across the European continent, the media has been very kind to muslims.
“You fanatics will not believe it - but theres too many muslims to hate them all...”
We also understand that not all muslims are bad, or desire the kind of problems that their radical ilk are fomenting around the world. And we don’t hate all muslims. Most of us, anyway. But what you might need to understand is that radical Islam is creating a great deal of trouble in the world and it is getting virtually no opposition among the “good” muslims.
This tells me that they are either not too concerned about the likely outcome of this, or that they are afraid to act. I imagine the latter, as the radicals are nasty people. But if they don’t stand up on the side of good, and against these evil radicals, they will eventually be completely lumped in with them.
So your nice, decent muslim colleagues will be in this later, if not sooner, if they don’t get off their rear ends and join the rest of us in the war against radical Islam.
As for the destruction of European society, well, I’ve personally watched liberalism destroy Europe over the last three decades. And now I see the damage that muslims are doing, for a variety of reasons, and the apparent collusion between them and the press and government. It is sad, but fear not. It is happening in the USA, as well!
“..;its been the same story with the Jews.”
The same story? You must be joking.
“[...]same story with the Jews.
The same story? You must be joking.”
Certainly referring to the society of germans in the 30ies who deliberatly accepted the jews as scapegoat for everthing evil.
It was not the shoa I was talking about.
It’s really quite similar don’t you think ? Muslims are identified as carrier of a disease called terror. Talking in arabian is enough to evacuate an airliner - if you are a muslim you will be frequently asked to distance yourself from terrorism.
It’s undeniable there are very agressive forms of islam and the world would be a better place without these - but what about the billions of people that are not agressive ?
Many muslims are among those who oppose terror (as for example those guys who were arrested for talking arabian) - it’s just as if they didn’t exist. Noone takes notice of them - and especially at freep it’s hard to find someone willing to open an eye on them.
Certainly they don’t have good organisations structures - if the pope speaks out it’s published nearly without a lag in time - if some imam says so or so - well you know there are many of them.
Cologne - just 60km from where I am has more muslims then most big cities in europe - i’ve been to a turkish wedding some years ago - above 1000 people turned up.
The couple marrying there both (yup even her) made their degrees in chemistry - these folks got Ph.D titels and a quite nice 6 digit yearly income - they talk fluent german they pay their taxes, they help their neighbours - why should they dictance themselfs from terrorism ?
Noone has the right to accuse anybody of beeing a terror suspect just because he or she blieves in islam - it’s not only politicaly incorrect it’s unfair, uneducated, moraly wrong in many instances and it helps the terrorists.
That would be Pink and she's not been banned anywhere.
A more appropriate question is "why would they not distance themselves...?
Your six figure friends are very much like a number of muslims I know here in the US; decent, working, willing to help out; and utterly impassive to the terrorism that others carry out in their names.
They don't participate and they don't oppose.
They would not harm you and they would not punish the lunatic who did (if he was muslim).
Their history tells them that acts of terrorism, intolerance, tribalism, and daily violence are just that - daily occurrences and entirely ordinary. "No big deal"
To their eyes, comfortable as it may be, western society is an aberration.
If you don't understand by this time that islam breeds a society totally at odds with any you've experienced since 1945, you are well on the way to finding out.
PS: scapegoating Jews goes back centuries in Europe and I've never seen a history of their burning ox carts, cathedrals, or villages because of it...you got your jackboot references wrong.
whats the name of this awful singer who sang dear Mr. President ? Isnt she banned from american radio stations ?
the one most famous for that line was marilyn monroe. she sang it to president kennedy. she died in 1963 of a drug overdose. she was never banned from radio. but then she didn’t sing much. she was more of a movie star.
“To their eyes, comfortable as it may be, western society is an aberration.
It’s the other way around - to you guys anything non-christian is an aberration.
Many muslims from iraq and iran have left the country because of the quite unpleasant experiences they made with the regimes there - then again many left when the air became to much poluted with heavy metalls - and most of them are sick and tired of this quite oriental kill and get killed game.
I guess many of them value peace and democracy higher then anyone over here - they just know the alternatives.
So why o why should these folks from all folks have to justify themselfes ?
There are otheres - they are over here but I guess in germany the problem is by far lower then in Belgium, the netherlands and France where you can see the one or other burka.
You will not see this in germany.
We have some (most times Pakistani some turkish)Imams that are definately on the dark side -we have a problem with them but we differenciate between them and the good guys - it’s our duty and if you don’t -
you loose the battle against the bad guys for sure.
your watch needs a repair - it’s 300 years late.
Otherwise .. scratch one for poland. August der Starke wasn’t bad either btw.
You are perhaps familiar with the web site, “Gates of Vienna”?
Yes, did you see the link i provided in the comment you replied to?
i think he’s thinking of Pink who has a song that goes something like
Mr. President, how do you sleep at night
And just how do you differentiate?
The ones who absolutely refuse to discuss it are good guys?
The ones who don't wear beards and robes are good guys?
The one not screaming in your face is a good guy?
I'm not talking about foam at the mouth radicals...
I'm talking about "normal" everyday folks, business persons, engineers, bankers...people I have daily interactions with and have done so for 15 or more years. Nice people in every regard and far more likely to "fit in" than 90% of "our" mexicans.
Except that they still consider events in the middle east as normal and entirely reasonable. Most are still uncomfortable with gender equality and with "losing" their kids to western ways.
Apart from the frequent trips back home, they almost universally expect to return. The only exceptions I have noted were Persians who came while Shah was in power, and (I think) one Jordanian. Christians and Armenians are separate categories altogether.
PS: Identifying me as a Christian is a stretch unless someone has died or gotten married recently - and the last one of those was Jewish.
PPS: Good luck with your sensitivity training but I doubt there is any way to win a battle by looking on and debating shades of gray.
I wasn't aware of anyone being arrested for speaking Arabic. Would you kindly provide a link to that information?
i think hes thinking of Pink who has a song that goes something like
Mr. President, how do you sleep at night
its likely that the pres sleeps better than pink. likely pink is an animist. these folk are prey animals to moslems
“Certainly referring to the society of Germans in the 30ies who deliberately accepted the Jews as scapegoat for everything evil.”
In the 30’s all Jews were scapegoated for the crime of, basically, doing well for themselves, while non Jewish Germans weren’t. Jews weren’t killing people, as muslims are these days. They were quite pacific, which is why they were so easily rounded up. The comparison doesn’t work. Muslim offenses are not imaginary, and they pose a real danger to civilized society.
But if you think your own muslim communities are benign and pose no threat, here’s a sample of what is going on around you:
The woman author is an example of what I am asking for of the greater “good” muslim community. It is not enough to oppose radical islam, if you only whisper it behind closed doors or among good friends. They must take risks and get involved, and stop this before it goes further. To date, such involvement has been rare. You might read this woman’s book for perspective.
You can give example after example of your good, decent muslim friends, but I can give you example after example of the opposite. Your friends will be lumped in with the bad if they don’t actively stand for good. That is an inevitability that history teaches us over and over again.