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Nearly 80,000 Ammunition Rounds Seized From Home
The Indy Channel ^ | 08/31/07

Posted on 08/31/2007 9:16:22 AM PDT by Abathar

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Authorities said they removed nearly 80,000 rounds of ammunition from the home of a South Bend man who warned that the world was going to end.

South Bend police and federal agents blocked off streets around Kevin Rieder's home for six hours Wednesday while they removed the ammunition.

Rieder, 38, was arrested Wednesday and charged with illegal possession of ammunition while subject to a restraining order, Assistant U.S. Attorney Donald Schmidt said.

The restraining order had been taken out by an ex-girlfriend, Schmidt said.

Rieder told employees at a gun shop where he bought 18,000 rounds that he believed the world was going to end, officials said.

He was in custody Friday morning, awaiting a Tuesday bail and detention hearing.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: banglist; gungrabbers; policestate
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To: DuncanWaring
List includes 7.62.

Oops...you are correct!

81 posted on 08/31/2007 10:42:14 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: BearCub

See I told you it was good! :) Not only weapons but really cool survival info set in a fictitious setting. I read a borrowed copy, think I’m going to have to get one of my own.


82 posted on 08/31/2007 10:46:13 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Abathar

bump


83 posted on 08/31/2007 10:52:11 AM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: TChris; Abathar
So, let me get this straight. An ex-girlfriend can go before a judge, make some accusations and get a restraining order against a guy, and this process immediately strips him of the right to possess ammunition which he legally purchased?

Yes, this is a result of the Lautenberg Amendment to the "Protection From Violence Against Women Act"(or some such name) a few years back. It was a vicious little poison pill Sen. Frank Lautenberg-NJ inserted to expand the scope of the existing restrictions on felons possessing guns to include even potential or alleged domestic violence against women. It's flatly unconstitutional, but as we all know that means absolutely nothing to our selfless public servants these days.

Did I get moved to the USSR as I slept?

No, while all Americans have slept for decades our leaders have gradually imported, adopted and infused the essence of the Soviet Union into this country. The resulting cancer has already metasticized and the prognosis is not good.

84 posted on 08/31/2007 10:56:15 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: reluctantwarrior; Abathar; Peanut Gallery
If you can count your ammo its not enough......

That would make a great tagline.

85 posted on 08/31/2007 10:56:45 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Bread and Circuses. Welfare and Football. Same stuff, different millenium.)
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To: Abathar

whew...thought this was the ND quarterback in trouble again.


86 posted on 08/31/2007 10:57:03 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Abathar

The police probably cured their ammo budget for the next year.


87 posted on 08/31/2007 10:58:35 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: tarheelswamprat
Yes, this is a result of the Lautenberg Amendment to the "Protection From Violence Against Women Act"(or some such name) a few years back. It was a vicious little poison pill Sen. Frank Lautenberg-NJ inserted to expand the scope of the existing restrictions on felons possessing guns to include even potential or alleged domestic violence against women.

It sounds like some NRA lawyers need to make this into a court case. He is literally stripped of an enumerated Constitutional right on the simple accusations of one person. He has no opportunity to defend himself against the accusations.

That law makes it flat simple to disarm anyone at all. One need only persuade a judge to issue a restraining order, and that's it.

If a constitutional lawyer can't get that law thrown out, he's not worth his paycheck.

88 posted on 08/31/2007 11:02:21 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: BurbankKarl

Let’s see how hard a time he has getting it back, then we will see if the cops want it or not.


89 posted on 08/31/2007 11:02:40 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: art_rocks

YES


90 posted on 08/31/2007 11:06:58 AM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: MississippiMan
Odd to have 80,000 rounds?

yup, that number seems a bit low.
91 posted on 08/31/2007 11:09:49 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: IamConservative
ATF form 4473, firearm transaction record.

section 9j.
92 posted on 08/31/2007 11:13:49 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: TChris
"Could it have something to do with supplying the military during a war? ...maybe?"

Only partially. The military obtains most of their 5.56mm ammunition from Lake City Army Ammunition Plant located near Independence, MO. Military ammunition acquisition has little to no affect upon the current supply shortage of commercial ammunition.

Increases in the raw material prices of brass and lead have been a large factor in the two previous ammunition price hikes this year.

There is a current shortage of commercial ammunition production capacity because of demand. When demand exceeds supply, higher prices can be expected. Capacity can not be increased quickly or cheaply in an industry that has been faced with too many feasts and famines.

93 posted on 08/31/2007 11:17:27 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Abathar

Why was it necessary to block the street?

It seems to me that the gun shop called the police because of his comments. How else would they know unless it was a routine search of the house because of the TRO.


94 posted on 08/31/2007 11:18:28 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: CholeraJoe

i take it you’ve never tossed a round into a fire. without the chamber and barrel, as well as the weight of you holding the gun, there really isn’t much a round will do. and nyou actually have more to worry about from the case than the bullet.
my wife never believed me about that until they finally did it on mythbusters. :)


95 posted on 08/31/2007 11:20:25 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: Buffalo Head
Increases in the raw material prices of brass and lead have been a large factor in the two previous ammunition price hikes this year.

There is a current shortage of commercial ammunition production capacity because of demand. When demand exceeds supply, higher prices can be expected. Capacity can not be increased quickly or cheaply in an industry that has been faced with too many feasts and famines.

Yes, and the raw material shortages are very likely connected to the war. It seems like that an obvious and significant pressure on the whole industry.

96 posted on 08/31/2007 11:21:59 AM PDT by TChris (Has anyone under Mitt Romney's leadership ever been worse off because he is Mormon?)
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To: Domandred
...if she even was a "girlfriend" to begin with

It is enough to make me wonder with all the official whining of late by police departments about ammo allegedly being in short supply. I wonder what caliber(s) are involved?

97 posted on 08/31/2007 11:23:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: 6ppc

“What, no .308?”

I only kill paper. I try to keep the number of calibers I reload down to a minimum so I won’t have to change the press over so often. I generally don’t reload rifle stuff. I do, however make all of my pistol ammo over .22 cal.


98 posted on 08/31/2007 11:26:31 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: absolootezer0
i take it you’ve never tossed a round into a fire.

Sorry. Never got drunk enough.

99 posted on 08/31/2007 11:26:51 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (How hot does it have to get for a burning concrete lion to experience spalling? Anybody know?)
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To: demshateGod

“But do you believe the world is going to end? Apparently, you can either have 1st amendment protection or 2nd. Not both.”

Well... Yes. But I figure I won’t be around when our sun goes supernova.


100 posted on 08/31/2007 11:27:32 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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