Defense Focus: Diesel sub wonder weapons

United Press International ^ | Aug. 31, 2007 | MARTIN SIEFF

[sukhoi-30mki]

Developed during the 2nd world war.

[antisocial]

DBF BTTT

[dennisw]

I’s the RPG effect. Smaller and poorer militaries and guerrillas have better and better ways to render ineffective the armor and tanks of advanced nations. What is an aircraft carrier but a colossal armored personnel carrier that conveys men and weaponry (airplanes) to distant places to project American power

So todays anti tank missiles will kill tanks and todays smaller diesel subs will swarm to kill our huge billion dollar naval ships which become sitting ducks

[Camel Joe]

While you completely ignore logistics please inform me as to how you would intend to resupply the fuel required to run both the diesel and the fuel cell. I would presume the fuel for the fuel cells would also be diesel, so tell me by what means you could resupply. If it is a surface ship tell me how you will extract the fuel from the wreck I’ve sent to the bottom of the sea? As a US force I WILL have air superiority and absolutely control the above sea lanes, you will have no surface supply whatsoever, NONE! I suppose you could attempt to supply in port but that would severely hamper the range at which you could operate. I don’t care how you slice it, they won’t stack up.

[Badeye]

Yep.

Its just ridiculous, and undermines the author with those of us that actually understand ‘how things work’ in this area.

[Badeye]

‘So, let me see here. The med sea, which is don’t know how many cubits wide and how many deep, but a bunch of them, can easily hide a deisel sub because of the size, but larger nuclear sub is easy to locate?? I seriously question the relative ease with which nuclear subs are located in the med sea, and not the deisel counterpart.’

Yep.

[Badeye]

‘I was thinking the same thing. Does the author know of the Virginia or the latest mods to 688 boats?’

If he does, he’s intentionally misleading.

If he doesn’t, he isn’t qualified to write the article in the first place.

[Camel Joe]

Why would we elect to sail through the Taiwan Straights? We could anchor our carrier fleet in the Sea of Japan and inflict pure devastation upon the Chi-com fleet of surface ships or subs from there. For coastal subs I guess they are OK.

[Little Ray]

That, too. Most of the modern AIP and diesel/electric subs are pretty fast. The streamlined hull subs use now were first tested on a D/E - the Albacore.
But they’re only fast for a little while. Then the fuel or juice runs out. A nuke can run at top speed for years