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Is it Sen. Craig or airport policeman Sgt. Karsnia who is lying?
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/mostert/070901 ^ | 9/02/07 | Louisiana 1776

Posted on 09/02/2007 9:22:17 AM PDT by Louisiana 1776

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1 posted on 09/02/2007 9:22:20 AM PDT by Louisiana 1776
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To: Louisiana 1776

It’s over.


2 posted on 09/02/2007 9:23:17 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Louisiana 1776

Craig was done in solely by his own behavior. The rest is irrelevant.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 9:24:35 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: flashbunny

True but when you are on a sex sting op, everything you see and do is sex based so the officer was already focused on that and looked at everything with this point of view.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 9:25:12 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Louisiana 1776

The republican party is in serious trouble right now.


5 posted on 09/02/2007 9:26:40 AM PDT by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter. Seriously.)
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To: Louisiana 1776

Craig was either lying when he signed his plea agreeing to be convicted and/or he is lying now saying he’s not guilty. In either case, he’s proven to be a liar. And as was already mentioned, it’s over.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 9:26:53 AM PDT by Waryone (Constantly amazed by society's downhill slide.)
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To: Louisiana 1776
I suppose you have to cut the police officer some slack, if he spends his entire shift hanging out in the men's room at an airport every day.

But, then again, wouldn't the bad guys figure out who he was after a while?

7 posted on 09/02/2007 9:27:12 AM PDT by Bernard (The Fairness Doctrine should be applied to people who follow the rules to come to America legally)
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To: Louisiana 1776

Far as I know, Craig has not said the policeman lied.

If there is a case to be made on Craig’s behalf, it’s for him to do so, and so far he hasn’t.

Whether or not Craig has acted like a guilty man, is open to dispute. But he sure hasn’t acted like an innocent one. Pleading guilty to a lesser charge without much of a push, and then resigning from the US Senate about as readily; would you say he’s just shy or easily manipulated?


8 posted on 09/02/2007 9:30:18 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Louisiana 1776
How many other men have been caught in this sting? I have yet to see reported the number of men captured at this location. I read plenty that there were "complaints" from citizens of unacceptable forwardness from denizens of this area of the airport.

If the cops set up a DUI checkpoint, stats are kept and published. Where does one go to get the fagola stats that must be kept at the FUI checkpoints?

9 posted on 09/02/2007 9:33:41 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Graymatter

The police tactics seem somewhat unfair - playie footsie is hardly illegal. If they catch two guys in a stall it is one thing but hardly seems fair to charge someone for making goo goo eyes and playing footsie.


10 posted on 09/02/2007 9:36:38 AM PDT by nvcdl
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To: Louisiana 1776

Ick.

Let it go.


11 posted on 09/02/2007 9:37:36 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Communist China: Walmart's answer to that pesky 13th Amendment.)
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To: Louisiana 1776
Senator Craig's response was "Don't do that. You solicited me."

How would he know?

12 posted on 09/02/2007 9:38:26 AM PDT by don-o (Do the RIGHT thing. Become a monthly donor. End Freepathons forever)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Info here:

http://wcco.com/local/local_story_243183246.html

“Of the 40 airport arrests about half exposed themselves or communicated clear intent. In the other half, just a tap of a toe and a nod could get someone arrested.”


13 posted on 09/02/2007 9:42:00 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Louisiana 1776

This is really sad. Such a denial of reality.

Face it, folks, there’s a lot of perverts and sexual miscreants in the GOP, from Craig to Vitter to Ken Mehlman to (probably) Lindsay Graham, and it’s pathetic to watch people dance around saying this cop is a bad guy, everyone reaches for imaginary toilet paper squares lying on the floor next to the toilet, and tapping the guy in the next stall’s foot is simply a way of saying “Hey! How ‘bout those Red Sox!”

Give it up...the guy was cruising for homo sex, and thank God he’s gone.

Ed


14 posted on 09/02/2007 9:42:04 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Louisiana 1776
Author is a wistful fool.
15 posted on 09/02/2007 9:42:32 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: Louisiana 1776

I listened to the tape of the interview and I am not convinced Craig lied. http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=359278

I’m not defending him, I just think there’s been a quick rush to judgment and acceptance of the cop’s story.


16 posted on 09/02/2007 9:47:01 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: Louisiana 1776
Craig should have used the Clinton defense, "DENY, DENY, DENY"!

If he had used the Clinton defense, it would have been Craig's word against the officer's word--with absolutely NO proof.

Heck, Clinton turned our nation's highest office into his "VERY OWN PERSONAL MASSAGE PARLOR" with a 22-year old, low-level, star-struck, flunkie who was also a subordinate--and he stayed in office! Amazing.

17 posted on 09/02/2007 9:47:26 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative candidate who will UNITE the Party, not a liberal one who will DIVIDE it!)
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Agreed, it’s totally inappropriate to arrest a person for nothing more than foot tapping. I don’t care what it signals to the cop, an idiot (the standard for idiot being, someone who’d plead guilty and quit the Senate if he thinks he’s innocent) might just have tapped his foot to act silly, or because he was tipsy, or for some other reason he didn’t want to admit at the time. One shouldn’t make an arrest over it, much less surrender a career.

But Craig had the choices and if he is truly innocent he is abysmally stupid and/or cowardly.

If he’d just said “see you in court” they would most likely have dropped all charges.


18 posted on 09/02/2007 9:50:44 AM PDT by Graymatter
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” Sgt. Karsnia is paid by the police Department to sit in

a stall in the men’s room all day, like a spider waiting

for the flies.

The Baron von Richthoven of the Minneapolis Bathroom

Patrol...

My general philosophy on public restrooms was summed up by the late Derek Jackson, the Oxford professor and jockey, in his advice to a Frenchman about to visit Britain. “Never go to a public lavatory in London,” warned Professor Jackson. ‘I always pee in the street. You may be fined a few pounds for committing a nuisance, but in a public lavatory you risk two years in prison because a policeman in plain clothes says you smiled at him.’ “

Mark Steyn

http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/craig-stall-bathroom-1836749-karsnia-room


19 posted on 09/02/2007 9:54:23 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Bernard
Who knows if Craig is guilty or not here, but the question that keeps bugging me is; in most airports, to get past first security to even get to gate areas, you are required to have a valid airline ticket, how is it that the “regular” frequent rest room queer hustlers are able to get past security and just hang out for lengths of time trying to hustle passengers?

On a talk show the other day, a similar undercover cop called in and said the cop that busted Craig did it wrong in that its procedure for a clean conviction to have some more overt act or verbal solicitation rather than some “signals”.

Putting tinfoil hat on, could there be some possibility, considering the Idaho newspapers research on Craig, that he was specifically entrapped for political reasons? It wouldn’t be too difficult to determine his travel, especially considering he often changes planes in Mn-StP, more than likely same gates, same restroom. Anyone who thinks the Dims are not as devious as the old KGB will wake up one day and find what we knew as America and freedom gone.

I suspect Graig plead because he knew he was being researched by that Idaho newspaper for many months and pretty well knew the jig was up with the airport situation no matter guilty or not guilty and tried to get all over with as fast as possible hoping it would just fad away. Might be very interesting to see some background on the cop.

20 posted on 09/02/2007 9:56:04 AM PDT by dusttoyou (FredHead from the git go)
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