Ping.
But we don’t have $10 lettuce, right?
This should be required reading for every member of congress. However, I’m sure that they already know it. Pro-amnesty legislators just want to kow-tow to big business and force the taxpayers to pay the tab.
I thought we pretty much had a national debate about cheap labor some time back. Seems to me that we had really cheap labor (ie, an upfront capital cost, with minimal ongoing expenses), then some people got all fired up about the immorality of cheap labor, then there were some absurd court findings that cheap laborers weren’t people, some idiotic rantings about states being the sole arbiters of who was a person and who was merely cheap labor, then the turds hit the turbine blades and we had a hugely expensive civil war to resolve the issue of “cheap labor.”
In the end, cheap labor ended up being not all that cheap.
And if we look at the aftermath of that previously imported cheap labor, it has been a financial drain upon this nation ever since.
When are we going to learn that, as a historical trend, cheap labor is never all that cheap?
“the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.”
I do appreciate the ping, khnyny! Ping me anytime!
But, if they’re paying taxes on low incomes, it’s revenue we wouldn’t have had if they hadn’t entered illegally. There’s no way it’s more of a loss than what we pay in entitlements. $2700 per household?!
CIS is perhaps not the most unbiased source for the data here, but it takes a really long time to research it through the state .orgs and they aren’t ever very current compared to CIS.
The true numbers are probably about double what CIS reports, just as they reported 11 billion illegals in 2006 and the number is closer to between 22 and 30 billion.
She stated that this is not our country but God’s country and we need to embrace and help the Hispanic community (illegals included). She also said our economy would collapse if it weren't for the Hispanic workforce.
As a Christian I could not find fault with the idea of helping out our fellow man. I tried to explain to her that God does expect us to follow mans laws as well as his and the illegals have broken a number of laws by coming here illegally and getting illegal documents etc.
I also tried to explain to her about the impact they have on our social system....she was unwilling to even look @ another side to the situation.....
By the way she goes to the Presbyterian church PCUSA, a church I left because of their lack of biblical truths and teachings....
She stated that this is not our country but God’s country and we need to embrace and help the Hispanic community (illegals included). She also said our economy would collapse if it weren't for the Hispanic workforce.
As a Christian I could not find fault with the idea of helping out our fellow man. I tried to explain to her that God does expect us to follow mans laws as well as his and the illegals have broken a number of laws by coming here illegally and getting illegal documents etc.
I also tried to explain to her about the impact they have on our social system....she was unwilling to even look @ another side to the situation.....
By the way she goes to the Presbyterian church PCUSA, a church I left because of their lack of biblical truths and teachings....
OOps sorry for the double post !!!!!
You see it is right there. There is an overall benefit when it comes to Social Security and Medicare. That in a nutshell is why they want to legalize all of these people. They are looking for a influx of cash for both. Yes, in their small minds it may seem like the cash cow has arrived but in the long run, the ramifications are too great in every other area. Our children and grandchildren will be paying a horrific price because they will have to sustain all of the entitlements that these legalized immigrants would need. Right now, hispanics are supassing every other group in teenage pregnancy and single parent births. We KNOW FOR A FACT that young unwed mothers are more likely to remain in poverty for ever. We KNOW FOR A FACT that children of these mothers tend to do terrible in school, therefore being uneducated and unemployable once they get older. WE KNOW FOR A FACT that these children are prone to criminal behavior and gang membership. This cycle will go on and on and not only will they be a drain on our goverment, I fear our children and grandchildren will have to live with rampant crime, like we have never seen before.
YEAH illegal immigration is a real winner.
It is analogous to the Deep South situation under slavery. The powerful few got cheap and disciplined labor and the rest of public had to share the burden of keeping it controlled under the threat of slave insurrections. The final result was a backward, poverty stricken land for all but the elite. The slaveowners got all the benefits of cheap labor without having to pay all the costs.
The very thing that hard working Americans are striving to get away from, poverty and all its ills. Bush is importing into our neighborhoods.
There is about 5 to 7 million illegals in our jails (local, state, and federal). They make up about one third of the prison population. The last I heard, it cost about $50,000 a year per prisoner. 5 million times $50,000 is $250 Billion.
Why do businesses really want the illegals? Two reasons, because they avoid the high costs of non-wage federal and state mandates (Workman's comp, etc.). The number one reason is that they have to use illegal labor because their competitor is using illegal labor!!!!! Sector by sector crack downs could fix this.
Why do Democrats want illegals? Two reasons: first is that they need to expand the future poor vote. Americans are leaving poverty behind and voting more Republican. The number one reason though is the public schools. Americans have taken their kids out of public schools in astounding numbers. Most of the liberal run school systems in and around the cities have 50% or more of their students comprised of the kids of illegals. No illegals and their funding gets cut in half, schools get closed, teachers get laided off, and liberal administrators loose their cushy six figure salaries.
This is simple math and I’m amazed more people haven’t figured this out at well.
Illegal aliens are criminals and take much more than they give back to America.
Send them all home and build the fence!!!