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1 posted on 09/05/2007 12:43:50 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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When you take into account being paid in cash and not paying taxes, its not so bad.


2 posted on 09/05/2007 12:45:39 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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>>Drop in pay greater for Hispanics than others<<

Good, I hope they feel the pain considering how they like to come out and wave their Mexican flags in our face.


3 posted on 09/05/2007 12:45:55 PM PDT by chaos_5 (Put the illegals aliens on a path ... back to Mexico!)
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A drop in wages also = lower tax base.

So lower tax base + increase in demand for services = budget deficit.


4 posted on 09/05/2007 12:46:13 PM PDT by khnyny (Hillary has given Bill a new title: Chief Flying Monkey)
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5 posted on 09/05/2007 12:46:43 PM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 1,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 1,000! THINK!)
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8 posted on 09/05/2007 12:48:46 PM PDT by gubamyster
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“At this point in time, there doesn’t appear to be an undue burden on our state from the rising Latino population,” Woodward said.

Liar.


9 posted on 09/05/2007 12:48:56 PM PDT by sheana
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Well, Duh! Why pay decent wages to legal residents when you can hire illegals for a fraction? Was this not common knowledge?


10 posted on 09/05/2007 12:49:24 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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While study authors would not attribute all of the drop to immigration,

of course not.....because the missing and unstated other ingredient is having shipped our industrial base and it’s jobs to third world countries.....which in turn hoists Wall Street up on what soon will be its petard.


12 posted on 09/05/2007 12:54:58 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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>>"At this point in time, there doesn't appear to be an undue burden on our state from the rising Latino population," Woodward said<<

Woodward is NOT very good at reading between the lines.

LAPD Most Wanted = 74% Hispanic

Immigration Counters (Real-Time Data Resource Center)

The Unpleasant FACTS ARE

>>Both studies found that immigrants used government services at a greater rate than native-born residents did. The New Jersey study found, for instance, that the typical immigrant family received about $4,044 annually in government services, about 11 percent higher than the average native-born family. At the same time, immigrant households paid about 8 percent less in taxes. The net result was that “the average native household generated an annual fiscal surplus of $232” to government, while “the typical foreign household was a net burden of $1,484.” The gap was even wider in California, where immigrant households produced a net deficit of $3,463 each, because so much of that state’s recent immigration had been in the form of low-wage, low-skill workers.

Though the study did not distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, it did break down foreign-born households by the regions of the world from which they had come. In both states, the study found the steepest deficit in Latin American households, which in New Jersey consumed 26 percent more in government expenditures than the average native-born family, but paid 38 percent less in taxes. By contrast, immigrant households in New Jersey that hailed from Europe or Canada actually consumed, on average, less in government services than the typical native-born family, and paid nearly as much in taxes.<<

Source: http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-08-29sm.html

14 posted on 09/05/2007 12:56:05 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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Wait a minute, I thought they were all here to pick vegetables. Since when are construction and landscaping and poultry processing “jobs Americans won’t do”???? Sure, Americans won’t do them for $5 an hour with no benefits, but all of these jobs used to be filled by Americans making decent wages.


15 posted on 09/05/2007 12:58:10 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks anyway, Nancy, but we already have a Commander-in-Chief!)
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“As South Carolina’s Hispanic population has grown”

I always knew we had a just God...

Now Lindsey Graham knows it too...

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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20 posted on 09/05/2007 1:04:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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And...

BWAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA


21 posted on 09/05/2007 1:04:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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I was paid $8/hr in the late-70's as a summer construction laborer. It was a little more than normal because it was the union wage for DC Metrorail, a federal contract (all workers had to be paid union scale).

Today that $8/hr would normalize to $25/hr to $30/hr, depending upon upon the index used (CPI, inflation rate, average wage rate, etc).

Anecdotally I'm pretty certain the hourly rate for most of the unskilled day labor jobs taken by illegal aliens is $12/hr to $15/hr. If one added the federal, state, and FICA taxes which illegals rarely pay, those rates are about $16/hr to $20/hr.

So it's accurate and not unfair to say that illegal aliens have driven down the hourly rate for unskilled labor by 30 percent to 50 percent over the past 30 years.

Think about those factual economics the next time you hear Mr. Contractor, Mr. Meatpacking Manager, and Mr. President of The United States discussing "the jobs that Americans won't do."

What they really mean is "the jobs that Americans won't do and can't do for substandard wages that are 50 percent less than in 1977".

I originally got this idea from Steve Camarata of CIS, complain to him or (more simply) run the numbers yourself if you have even a whisper of doubt that it's not true. It's very very easy to verify, the annual index numbers are all over the Internet, and the subsequent elementary level mathematics take about 10 minutes to complete.

24 posted on 09/05/2007 1:10:27 PM PDT by angkor
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Holy supply and demand, Batman, how could that happen?


25 posted on 09/05/2007 1:14:04 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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Women and minorities hit hardest...


26 posted on 09/05/2007 1:15:24 PM PDT by Keith (Giuliani in 2008 -- it's about winning the WOT)
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What surprise!

Bush’s lack of enforcement was a wage deflation policy.

Bush’s code word for it is “growth”


28 posted on 09/05/2007 1:19:59 PM PDT by Shermy
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How much has the cost of incarceration gone up? That is usually the place where the taxpayer is hardest hit.


32 posted on 09/05/2007 1:35:41 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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ping


33 posted on 09/05/2007 1:39:40 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Between the Lines
he state's higher-than-average level of workers who do not have a high school or college diploma.

Did he include the illegals in this figure ? If so, and I suspect he did, again the higher level of low education is caused by illegals.

Then there's the self-report that illegals don't often go to the doctor. I call a big BS on that - they probably just go to the emergency room, not "the doctor". Or maybe since 75% report they have little to no English, he couldn't understand them.

35 posted on 09/05/2007 1:56:23 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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This confirms to some degree what I have been saying for several years but the truth is worse than this report. This report is based on inflation figures which are cooked to make things look much better than reality. If the true inflation figures were used then social security payments would jump so fast the whole system would go busted.


37 posted on 09/05/2007 2:40:03 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anybody still believe this is a free country?)
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