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Senate votes to kill Mexican truck demo, Bush 'Open Borders' agenda dealt serious bi-partisan blow
WorldNetDaily ^ | September 11, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 09/11/2007 8:33:54 PM PDT by NapkinUser

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To: c-b 1

I posted this on another thread but it fits here too:

What U.S. truckers in their right mind would WANT to transport goods to their destination in Mexico? It would take them YEARS to get to their drop-off point. First they would have to play dodge-em with all the 1950’s vintage cars that inhabit the roadways of Mexico. And all the break-downs associated with old cars. Or the farm vehicles that go 1 mile an hour on a good day. Plus another good chunk of Mexicans drive like they are drunk, which may very well be true. Erratic driving is the norm. Then of course, there will be the set-up robberies of our trucks, with the help of the Federales to make it easier, with phony traffic stops.

Meanwhile, back here in the good old USA, we will have Mexican drivers going to their destination points in our country who don’t know our highways, the rules of the road only a bit, who may imbibe drugs or drink on whim, who could be terrorists, delivering bomb payloads instead of goods, and taking who knows what drugs or contraband back and forth over the border. While putting U.S. truckers out of business. Such a good deal for us, si senor?


41 posted on 09/12/2007 3:31:17 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: Grams A; TomGuy; ovrtaxt; Borax Queen; Czar; janetgreen; processing please hold; ...
From post #12: The two aggravating things about this amendment are: First, the list of co-sponors, and Second, the list of Senators voting NAY or not voting: [ALL REPUBLICANS].

From post #33: This is election year hype - should we be thankful for a crumb from the crummy?

From post #34: One issue the Repubs want is for all cargo including meat, vegetables, etc. to be inspected. Govt agency in charge says they will only inspect 1%. There is more than just trucks killing us on the highway.

BumPing!
42 posted on 09/12/2007 3:37:40 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

It was a Democratic Congress that shot down the immigration bill.

Now, they are the ones that want to make sure Americans are safe on the road and our sovereignty is not violated.

What the eff am I missing here? What are the pubbies about anymore?


43 posted on 09/12/2007 3:42:37 AM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: JRochelle

One of the 24 dolts is Richard Lugar, one of my senators, a REPUBLICAN. He will here from the voters in my household immediately. Democrat Evan Bayh will get a “THANK YOU” from us.


44 posted on 09/12/2007 3:48:03 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: djf

It’s the NAU. Plain and simple.


45 posted on 09/12/2007 3:50:10 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: djf; Colorado Buckeye
What are the pubbies about anymore?

$$$$$$$$$$ and the NAU. So are the Democrats....this is just an appearance that they aren't. If the Senate were seriously against selling out America, they would make a law overturning their previous law: NAFTA is not a treaty, it's a law.

Note that the House vote was 234-200 and the Senate vote was 61-38. A treaty requires no House concurrence but does require the concurrence of 2/3s of the Senators "present." [U. S. Constitution - Article II; Section 2]. Two-thirds of the Senate present for the NAFTA vote did not concur. The Bill was passed but no treaty was authorized.

NAFTA is not a treaty.

"As law but not treaty, NAFTA can be altered or repealed with the simple passage of another law. So, when a Congress critter says that their hands are tied, that they are "bound" by NAFTA, it's likely a disingenuous argument. However, in the case that they are speaking out of ignorance, that they actually believe that NAFTA is a not easily altered treaty, then they should be reminded that NAFTA is simply law and that they have the power to create or change laws."

[Credit and thanks given to Colorado Buckeye for this information.]


46 posted on 09/12/2007 3:50:53 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 103rd Congress - 1st Session

As compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate Vote Summary

Question: On Passage of the Bill (H.R.3450)
Vote Number: 395 Vote Date: November 20, 1993, 07:28 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed
Measure Number: H.R. 3450
Measure Title: A bill to implement the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Vote Counts: YEAs 61

NAYs 38

Not Voting 1

More details on Senate vote here: U.S. Senate: Legislation & Records Home > Votes > Roll Call Vote:

U. S. House FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 575
(Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents underlined)

      H R 3450      RECORDED VOTE      17-Nov-1993      10:36 PM
      QUESTION:  On Passage
      BILL TITLE: NORTH AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT IMPLEMENTATION ACT


Ayes Noes PRES NV
Democratic 102 156    
Republican 132 43    
Independent   1    
TOTALS 234 200    

More details on the House vote here: Final Vote Results for Roll Call 575

47 posted on 09/12/2007 3:54:00 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: TomGuy

Martinez (R-FL) voted against.

Republican opposition. Democratic support. The Republican’s still think thier friends in big business are more important than their grass roots voters that oppose open borders with Mexico.


48 posted on 09/12/2007 5:31:48 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: potlatch

Mexican trucks have been crossing the US to reach Canada for over a decade.


49 posted on 09/12/2007 5:32:48 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: OldArmy52

It amazes me that the Free World’s best hope has so many elected leaders that are scum, corrupt and/or incompetent.
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We, the people, must blame ourselves for letting the condition get out of control. Time to fix our mistakes in the 2008 election.


50 posted on 09/12/2007 6:14:18 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
We, the people, must blame ourselves for letting the condition get out of control. Time to fix our mistakes in the 2008 election.

A few minutes ago I posted this thought on another thread.

Let's restore Constitutional government, and remove the globalists/internationalists from the taxpayer dole and public office now!
51 posted on 09/12/2007 6:26:42 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: NapkinUser

Don’t thank the Democrats. They weren’t voting for safety, they were voting to ensure jobs for union employees, who get to unload all the goods from the mexican trucks at the border and re-load them into american trucks.

It’s a shame that we can’t find out if there is a safety issue, because republicans refuse to allow a demonstration program.

It’s hard to see what part of small-government conservatism is being advanced here.


52 posted on 09/12/2007 7:23:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: John Leland 1789

Dick is my senator too.

I hang my head in shame..


53 posted on 09/12/2007 8:15:01 AM PDT by JRochelle ( Winkle Paw is a Hillary donor.)
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To: devolve

I swear, when he thinks about Mexico, it seems to flip a toggle switch in President Bush’s brain, and his normal common sense is turned off.


54 posted on 09/12/2007 10:31:19 AM PDT by edweena
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To: NapkinUser
Good. This was a stupid move on the part of the Bush Administration. Glad to see it go down in flames.


55 posted on 09/12/2007 10:34:56 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: potlatch; edweena

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GW had a Mexican illegal alien nanny

A family tradition it seems

Check out Jeb in college in Mexico City and bring his intended to Texas to get married

The Bush family has never been Conservative on many things - esp. in personal and business matters they pick and choose

Politicians and journalists and professors and tycoons live in another world with flexible rules and ethics

“I’m the decider....”


56 posted on 09/12/2007 12:04:34 PM PDT by devolve ( --- ----Email a link to this thread to lists now!--)
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To: devolve; Sarajevo; ovrtaxt; ClaireSolt; PhilDragoo

“Spanish” as in Spain.

Yes, I misspoke on the ‘French’. Cintra-Zachry is from Madrid, Spain.

Usually when we say ‘spanish’ we automatically think of Mexico and south America.


57 posted on 09/12/2007 12:13:49 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: janetgreen

Snarlin’ Arlen constituents are still big union up here. I bet he got a call (or two) from his Teamster buds...


58 posted on 09/12/2007 12:19:28 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't out to get you...)
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To: Ben Ficklin

But not the ‘long haul’ 18 wheelers - I don’t think. I live in South Texas and the small Mexican trucks are all over even thought they are not supposed to go beyond a set number of miles from the border.


59 posted on 09/12/2007 12:34:52 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: nicmarlo

Bump Dat...:0/


60 posted on 09/12/2007 2:10:35 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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