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Libertarian Ideas Are Unreasonable (ref: Ron Paul)
The Daily Campus ^ | September 11, 2007 | Brandon Nadeau

Posted on 09/13/2007 9:02:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Last week the Republicans had another debate, this one on FOX News. Not much has changed in the last few months; Rudy Giuliani is still in the lead in the polls and Fred Thompson is still in second despite the fact he didn't announce his intentions to run until a few days ago. What has changed, and changed for the worse, is the surging popularity of a Texas Congressman by the name of Ron Paul. I've been running into normal, intelligent people who support Paul, and it really scares me.

The reason Paul is as popular as he is has to do largely with his sudden support from Democrats and I have to admit, when I didn't know much about him I thought he sounded like a good candidate. He wants to end the Iraq war, have tighter borders, lower taxes and decrease spending, what's not to like? The problem doesn't lie with his policies and ideas, but rather his execution of said policies. How to end the war in Iraq: immediate pullout not only from Iraq, but from the whole of the Middle East. Never mind the slaughter that will occur with our exit. Paul, by the way, denies that this will happen, as the people saying it will are the same that said it would be an easy win. It was a mistake and we never should have been there.

He has more than one unworkable policy. Who else here wants to abolish the FDA? Dr. Paul is your man. His case against the FDA is that they take taxpayer money and are supposed to regulate the food and drugs coming into the country and those produced here, but there are still cases that get by them. Obviously, he claims, we would be better off with no Federal regulation. Corporations should police themselves. Paul is a big fan of the free market and wants to see an end of just about every federal agency that does anything useful or helpful. DEA? Gone. Medicare/Medicaid? History. IRS? The government has no right to take your money.

Paul is such a fan of the free market and letting businesses do whatever they want that during a recent session of Congress he was the one dissenting vote when Congress decided to stop giving tax money to corporations profiting from the genocide in Sudan. It seems pretty cut and dry, companies are making money off of a genocide. Why would you give them money to keep doing that? Paul's answer: We shouldn't tie the hands of corporations by limiting their business dealings. That pretty much covers foreign policy for Paul.

Paul doesn't like the federal tax system and actually signed a document circulated by the National Libertarian Organization a few years ago affirming this belief. Lower taxes is one of the tried and true methods of getting people to vote for you. The problem with Paul saying he'll get lower taxes is that it's not entirely true. Yes, your income will be less taxed, but Paul wants to raise the sales tax to 23 percent at the least. Have fun being poor, because you won't be able to afford anything under Paul's administration. What would be really interesting is seeing how much price gouging we would see with no regulatory bodies, but I'd rather not think about it.

More interesting is Paul's absolute belief in the free market. He wants to see an end of public service agencies and governmental controls. Private post offices, for example, would be bought up by companies and if you're not served by the same post office as say, the people sending you bills, you might never get the bill. Or you might incur a fee when you get the bill. Imagine all roads in the country being up for sale: Paul sees a future where this has happened and thousands of toll booths are being constructed across the country.

We wouldn't have a nutcase presidential candidate without him being a racist, not these days anyways. Paul luckily fits that bill. He's made his case against the African American community known very well, starting with this comment back in 1992, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." Later he would say the age to be prosecuted as an adult should be lowered to 13 because "black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." It's no wonder White Supremacist Website and forum Stormfront.org has come out in support of Paul, as has former Ku Klux Klan member and politician David Duke.

Here's a list of things Paul wants to end because they have had failures in the past, or he sees them as useless: CIA, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, FDA, IRS, Medicare, FBI, DEA, UN, NATO, NAFTA and CAFTA. That's the short list. This is my biggest problem with Ron Paul. He offers no constructive thoughts, only destructive ones. He doesn't think a single thing can be made to work if it failed even once. Bad intelligence? Cut it out completely, don't try to reform it.

Overall, Paul has no workable ideas. He wants to return to a gold standard, which would destroy the US economy. He wants to cut nearly every government department and build a giant wall (not a fence) on our border with Mexico. I honestly don't understand how people can think he would make a good president.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/13/2007 9:02:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Run Paul, Ru Paul, he’s a nut.


2 posted on 09/13/2007 9:04:24 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The reason Paul is as popular as he is has to do largely with his sudden support from Democrats

Correction: his PREFERRED support from Democrats.

3 posted on 09/13/2007 9:07:57 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This reads more like the conservative case FOR Ron Paul.


4 posted on 09/13/2007 9:08:56 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: George W. Bush; Extremely Extreme Extremist
DEA? Gone. Medicare/Medicaid? History. IRS? The government has no right to take your money.

Sweet.

5 posted on 09/13/2007 9:10:01 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: ejonesie22; Allegra; Alouette; SJackson; Mr. Silverback; Petronski; mnehrling; jrooney

Ping! ;)


6 posted on 09/13/2007 9:10:20 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
So you guys don't agree with limited government or what?

Why don't you folks debate why we need to be involved in Medicare, Housing, or the UN, instead of posting the usual knee-jerk cheap-shots.

7 posted on 09/13/2007 9:10:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s always room for a Paul-Kucinich ticket.


8 posted on 09/13/2007 9:11:15 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's no wonder White Supremacist Website and forum Stormfront.org has come out in support of Paul, as has former Ku Klux Klan member and politician David Duke.

Has the Paul campaign welcomed the endorsement though?

More guilt-by-association BS.

9 posted on 09/13/2007 9:11:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fred Thompson voted for NCLB.


10 posted on 09/13/2007 9:12:39 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Who else here wants to abolish the FDA?

Well, I for one, considering, IMO, they are killing exponentially more Americans than they are 'saving' and, besides, and more importantly, perpetuating tyranny over the American people. NCEs stand for New Chemical Entities, new drugs

FYI: FDA Tyranny (a collection of news stories and commentary on FDA abuses)


11 posted on 09/13/2007 9:13:16 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: NapkinUser

I paid real money for my Medicare. If it’s shut down I am owed at least that much, plus interest.


12 posted on 09/13/2007 9:14:32 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“He offers no constructive thoughts, only destructive ones.”

Pretty sad that nowadays abolishing government programs and actually shrinking government is not considered a viable ‘constructive’ solution by todays faux conservatives...


13 posted on 09/13/2007 9:16:42 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Anyone who reads this post and continues to support this nut case has to be seriously deranged.
14 posted on 09/13/2007 9:18:16 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul has the same chance of being elected President as did Ross Perot, as did Pat Buchanan, or any other insurgent candidate.

Harold Stassen had more of a chance.


15 posted on 09/13/2007 9:18:16 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: NapkinUser

Ron Paul is and always has been a Big L Libertarian.

Any Democrat who doesn’t understand that and all its implications is too stupid to be voting.

(from a former card-carrying, sometimes paid Libertarian staffer & activist)


16 posted on 09/13/2007 9:19:40 PM PDT by angkor ("Everyone is super stoked on me, even if they don't know it." - Al Gore, South Park 10.6)
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To: traviskicks
Well, I for one, considering, IMO, they are killing exponentially more Americans than they are 'saving' and, besides, and more importantly, perpetuating tyranny

I suppose correlation is causation. The FDA is approving fewer drugs, but that is because they are wary of AEs, not because they are tyrants.

17 posted on 09/13/2007 9:19:56 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: NapkinUser
This reads more like the conservative case FOR Ron Paul.

Do you think conservatives are for the dissolution of the FBI and CIA (at least in theory)? NATO? The problem with Paul's lists are baby/bathwater types of things, imo.

18 posted on 09/13/2007 9:22:49 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: SoldierDad
Anyone who reads this post and continues to support this nut case has to be seriously deranged.

First of all, most of this post is full of ad-homenims and straw-man BS. Second of all, Paul is right on all of the other issues besides foreign policy, and even then I still agree with half of it. This "deranged" FReeper is proud to support him in the primaries regardless of what others think of him.

19 posted on 09/13/2007 9:22:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Coming soon: Stupidparty.com = Republican Party news, opinions, and blogs)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Enjoy your delusions.


20 posted on 09/13/2007 9:23:38 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Division Soldier fighting terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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