Posted on 09/16/2007 5:29:00 PM PDT by SmithL
From its beginnings as a nation, the United States differed from Europe in its citizenship policies, welcoming all those born on U.S. territory as U.S. citizens.
Now Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Gold River, and 89 other Republican members of Congress want to end the tradition of birthright citizenship. Eleven of 19 Republicans in the California congressional delegation have signed on to sponsor this terrible bill (HR 1940) that would move the United States toward becoming a restrictionist nation of descent based on parentage.
In practical terms, if this bill passed, no longer could people born in the United States simply show a birth certificate to prove their citizenship.
Want a driver's license or a U.S. passport? You would not only need to dig up your birth certificate but the birth certificate, citizenship papers, green card or proof of active military service of one parent. A new bureaucracy would be necessary for determining the validity of a parent's citizenship.
Why would so-called "small government" conservatives want that kind of outcome?
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They would have been, however, this bill is clear that only those born to US citizens, with no exception for legal residents, would become citizens.
All we really need to do is stop the money! If we didn't provide free health care, WIC, Housing Subsidies, food stamps, etc to non-citizens the 'anchor baby' issue would go away. You get more of what you pay for, and our government is paying for illegals to have children at the same time that it is paying (through planned parenthood) for citizens to not have children, and paying for in-school programs encouraging our children to not have children. When we payed poor people not to work, we got a lot of non-working poor people; when we stopped paying them they stopped being 'non-working'.
This author is playing games.
It is about ILLEGAL ALIENS not legal residents.
Regarding the 14th Amendment problem, illegal aliens are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States, in my opinion. They presumably are subject to the jurisdiction of their countries of origin, unless you want to count our interactions with them in law enforcement or the simple fact that they are geographically inside our borders.
I thought the bill simply mandated that one parent must be a U.S. Citizen or legal resident. Did you check thomas.gov about that?
I copied this quote - don’t remember from where but it could have been from here:
“We are NOT a nation of immigrants, but a nation of settlers and builders who created a nation that later immigrants desired to become a part of”
Funny how the enemedia wants to ape Europe when it comes to socialized medicine, an an unarmed populace and the nanny state. But when it comes to updating our citizenship laws they want to remain in the 18th century.
If this law passed, do adults born here from non-citizen parents also lose citizenship?
It would be easy to note in BIG letters on the birth cert that the subject is the spawn of illegals and therefore also illegal.
`(b) Definition- Acknowledging the right of birthright citizenship established by section 1 of the 14th amendment to the Constitution, a person born in the United States shall be considered `subject to the jurisdiction' of the United States for purposes of subsection (a)(1) if the person is born in the United States of parents, one of whom is--
`(1) a citizen or national of the United States;
`(2) an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence in the United States whose residence is in the United States; or
`(3) an alien performing active service in the armed forces (as defined in section 101 of title 10, United States Code).'.
That is fine with me.
I doubt it. That would violate the Consitution's ban on ex-post-facto law.
The bill does exlude temporary visas. The aliens have to be admitted for permanent residence or serving in the armed forces.
All is well!....we can all go back to sleep now....just as congress, other assorted leaders, the world, and the media desire.....
NUTS! I choose to stay awake....
There is always a time when the elites are wrong....This is that time.
You are correct.
The key work here is “illegal”.
I’m assuming from what you’ve stated that your parents did everything according to the law. Though foreign nationals, they were here as legal residents. Upon citizednship they became naturalized citizens, or in other words, immigrants. This was all done according to our laws. Please understand that there is no such thing as an “illegal immigrant”.
In short, at least one Democrat has proposed creating a Janissary system in the US very similar to the one used by the Turks.
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