Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6–Ft Lauderdale, FL 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

[CounterCounterCulture]

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6 – Fort Lauderdale, Florida 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

The debate will focus on issues of special concern to social and religious conservatives who brand themselves "values voters." The candidates will begin arriving here mid-afternoon, and the debate kicks off at 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time. It will be streamed live via the Internet at ValuesVoterDebate.com and the website for the American Family Association.

It is also reported to be telecast on Sky Angel's Angel One channel & Dish Network channel #262.

Moderated by Joseph Farah, editor of WorldNetDaily

Candidates participating

• Sam Brownback
• John Cox
• Mike Huckabee
• Duncan Hunter
• Alan Keyes
• Ron Paul
• Tom Tancredo

[CounterCounterCulture]

Previous debate threads:

GOP Debate #5 thread: Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #5 – Durham, New Hampshire 09/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

GOP Debate #4 thread: Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 - Des Moines, Iowa 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

GOP Debate #3 thread: Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #3 - Manchester, NH 06/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

GOP Debate #2 thread: Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #2 - Columbia, SC 05/15/07 - Official Discussion Thread

GOP Debate #1 thread: Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #1~ Reagan Library 05/03/07 - Official Discussion Thread

[counterpunch]

The candidates no one supports debate on a channel no one watches.

[CounterCounterCulture]

Two lies in one sentence. Nice job.

The door’s right behind ya.

[cripplecreek]

I’m in.

[Dr. Thorne]

The candidates no one supports debate on a channel no one watches.

And candidates who don't have respect for values voters don't win. No one in the GOP has learned a thing from 2006. Pure arrogance.

[LtKerst]

another Ron Paul tin foil hat wearer.

your Man is “Third Tier”

Gulianni, Thompson, and The Morman are not there because they havent got the Guts to answer tough questions

[counterpunch]

another Ron Paul tin foil hat wearer.
your Man is “Third Tier”

Wow, you are a sharp one!
Ron Paul is one of the nobodies participating in this debate.
From what I can tell, everyone at the "ValueVoters" debate is "Third Tier."

I think second tier now is McCain and Romney.
 

[cripplecreek]

Has John McCain even broken a half percent in the last couple of straw polls?

[AuntB]

Thank you CCC.

[CounterCounterCulture]

Pre-debate stuff streaming now. Just finished with Pledge of Allegiance.

[AuntB]

Ping

http://valuesvoterdebate.com/livestream.cfm?host_id=f2a

[Paperdoll]

:) Well, just make sure you don’t watch it either then.

[VanDeKoik]

This should be on C-SPAN 8, the Ocho.

[pissant]

Thank you!

[CounterCounterCulture]

4th stanza of Star-Spangled Banner! Now the first.

[AuntB]

http://valuesvoterdebate.com/livestream.cfm?host_id=f2a

Coming up in a few minutes.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

PAUL PING

The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle.

In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman.

In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, HR 1094.

I am also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn.

Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken direct action to restore protection for the unborn. As an OB/GYN doctor, I’ve delivered over 4,000 babies. That experience has made me an unshakable foe of abortion. Many of you may have read my book, Challenge To Liberty, which champions the idea that there cannot be liberty in a society unless the rights of all innocents are protected. Much can be understood about the civility of a society in observing its regard for the dignity of human life.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/

[CounterCounterCulture]

Phyllis Schlafly!

[Sun]

Time for the most important debate!

They will talk about life, marriage, and borders, and I don’t know what else.

[counterpunch]

John McCain is doing pretty well on his “No Surrender” Tour.
He was touring the country in support of victory while Ron Paul was in San Francisco on 9/11 raising money from ‘truthers’ and calling for retreat.

And McCain is on the road today in support of winning in Iraq while Ron Paul is attending this so-called “valueVoters” debate.
Sorta puts the whole thing in perspective.

[CounterCounterCulture]

The Constitution. :-)

[cripplecreek]

I couldn’t care less about Ron Paul but if McQueeg can’t break 1 percent in the straw polls he’s toast.

[gidget7]

Just like a kid. Rather than do as a grown up would do, which would of course be to see a thread you have no interest in, and just bypass it. You chose instead to come in and make a juvenile comment. ROFL

Why is it some folks can’t resist the urge to do that?

[Sun]

“The Constitution. :-)”

Thanks, and this is Constitution Day!

[RasterMaster]

Here we go!

[CounterCounterCulture]

SHOWTIME

[CounterCounterCulture]

Joseph Farah (WorldNetDaily) on stage

[RasterMaster]

FAIR & EQUITABLE TRADE	Fair Trade, Not Free Trade = Jobs / Packed House in Mission Valley China Cheating  on Trade / America is a GREAT Nation
SECOND AMENDMENT	Glen & Helen Show / CA Bullet Serialization / A Keyboard and a .45 /Armed & Free
ECONOMY & TAXES	Address to Fair Tax Rally 05-15-07 / Address to CPAC / Fiscal Conservativism
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD	Iraq Resolution / Hunter vs. Democrats / Surge is Working Senate Amnesty Bill / Amnesty Fails / Amnesty Fails Again  / Hunter Vs. Murtha
LEGAL REFORM	Gonzales Firings / Pardon Scooter? / ”Fairness” Doctrine Border Agents Compean & Ramos / Defending Border Agents
ENDORSEMENTS	Appeal to Conservatives / General Chuck Yeager / Conservative Voice Ann Coulter / Magnificent! / Favorite Announcement – Part 1 & Part 2 / Music Video On the Road to the Oval Office Conservative Case / A Fresh Face / Blog Collection / Constitution Party / Grassroots HQ
EDUCATION	No Child Left Behind
HEALTHCARE	Ronald Reagan Health Care / ‘National’ HealthCare / “One step closer to socialism”
IMMIGRATION	Border Enforcement is Homeland Security / NAFTA / Secure Border Building a Fence / “Jobs Americans won’t do”? / Wake Up America 07-19-07 Enforce the Law / No Amnesty / Party of One / Ted Hayes
SAFETY & SECURITY	Dubai Ports / Cooking with Hunter / War On Terror / To America’s Critics / JFK Plot Mark Steyn on 1986 Amnesty / Firefighter’s Forum / CSIS Forum / Katrina Summit
FAITH & VALUES	Blogs for Life / Judicial Appointments / Right to Life Rally / Hunter's Faith Terri Shaivo / Mt. Soledad Cross  - Flyer / Roe vs. Wade / Hate Crimes
INTERVIEWS	Dennis Miller (June 1st – 3rd Hour) / Michael Illions Roger Hedgecock (4/6, 4/24, 4/25, 6/8, 6/29, 7/2, 7/17, 7/19) Laura Ingraham – Part 1 & Part 2 / Steve Malzberg 06-19-07 Brian Preston – Hot Air / William Gheen - ALIPAC WRKO Pundit Review Radio / Polipundit Radio / Tom McLaughlin Kevin McCullough – Musclehead Revolution / John Hawkins NHPR’s Laura Knoy on The Exchange / Irving Baxter WESH – Orlando (Conversation with the Candidate) / Wolf Blitzer  Hardball 07-30-2007 / Hardball - Al Sharpton / George Stephanopolis  Charlie Rangel – Part 1 & Part 2 / Dennis Kucinich – Part 1 & Part 2 Glenn Beck / JD Hayworth 1 & 2 / Tom McLaughlin / Neil Cavuto
DEBATES	Reagan Library 05-03-07 / After Interview South Carolina 05-15-07 / Fox Interview New Hampshire 06-05-07 / Spin Room - NH/ Lynne Hunter Iowa Presidential Candidate Forum 06-30-07 Iowa 08-05-07 / Hunter vs Paul / After the Debate / De Moines 07-06-07
POLLS	Hunter Beats McCain / Maricopa County, Arizona 01-13-07 Spartanburg, South Carolina 03-01-07 / SC GOP Conventions 04-16-07 Anderson County, South Carolina 04-17-07 / Free Republic / Coryell, Tx / Texas Win
ADDITIONAL AUDIO & VIDEOS	Young Republicans - Part1 - Part2 - Part3 / Texas Straw Poll Speech Core Principles / BIG STORY WEEKEND with Julie Bandaras / Latest Articles Brian & the Judge: 01-10-2007 / 02-08-2007 / 03-12-2007/ Cost of WH Run The Right Balance hosted by Greg Allen / Still in the Race / Duncan D. Hunter

 

[airborne]

I’m on a local dial up, in the PA woods.

Please keep me posted!

[Sun]

Hooray! This is exciting!

[CounterCounterCulture]

Empty podiums for absent presidential candidates. LOL :-)

[RasterMaster]

Empty podiums will get questions....wonder how FRed will answer?

[counterpunch]

Straw polls are about all Hunter supporters have left to cling to, aren’t they?
And yet from what I remember, Hunter came in dead last in the only straw poll anyone has paid any attention to so far.
Straw polls teach us something about the Law of Small Numbers, don’t you think?
On the other hand, the latest Rasmussen has McCain in 3rd ahead of “straw poll favorite” Romney.

[RasterMaster]

FRed Thompson....

[CounterCounterCulture]

candidates announced (in order)...

Mike Huckabee
Tom Tancredo
John Cox
Sam Brownback
Ron Paul
Duncan Hunter
Alan Keyes

[Sun]

Maybe he’ll go on Leno’s again tonight. :)

Or maybe all of the GOP so-called 1st tier candidates are at a special meeting with the Dems who also refused to do this debate.

[cripplecreek]

I would have put windsocks on the empty podiums.

[pctech]

I’m very disappointed Fred Thompson won’t be there. He may have lost my vote. I’m looking to hear what Duncan Hunter has to say on the issues.

[Kimberly GG]

“They will talk about life, marriage, and borders”

Explains why NONE of the top tier candidates aren’t present!

[dschapin]

I love the fact that they left four empty podiums up there for the candidates who didn’t bother to come and talk to social conservatives.

[Kimberly GG]

Thanks for the link!

[RasterMaster]

Cardboard cut-outs....then play cricket sounds when questioned....better yet “DUH...I don’t know”.

[Inspectorette]

Where’s Fred?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Why don’t you change your tagline? You’ve been told a million times that Paul is not going to run as a 3rd party candidate, and we all know Hillary isn’t a Republican so there’s no way Paul can “help” her in the primaries.

[Inspectorette]

Oops - none of the top guys are there!?

[RasterMaster]

Attending the HOLLYWOOD VALUES VOTER debate?

[NapkinUser]

Pretty much every one of the "first tier candidates", in both major political parties, are empty suits: Giuliani, Romney, Thomson, Clinton, Edwards and especially Obama. They all have focus groups and scripted speeches.

[GulfBreeze]

Did we have to start this thing out with a bash the USA song?

[cripplecreek]

Waiting to see what positions he should take tomorrow I assume.

[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

If Paul were around today, he wouldn’t cross the Potomac... he and his Troofer allies would double-cross it.

I have the feeling that 75% of the viewers of this debate are the posters on this thread, minus me.

I like Tanc and Hunter, but realistically neither has a shot.

As for the rest - all the Paul fans I’ve met in person have been total truther type kookballs with a handfull of goldbugs mixed in, and I’ve never met a supporter for the others.