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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6–Ft Lauderdale, FL 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 09/17/2007 3:30:35 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #6 – Fort Lauderdale, Florida 09/17/07 - Official Discussion Thread

The debate will focus on issues of special concern to social and religious conservatives who brand themselves "values voters." The candidates will begin arriving here mid-afternoon, and the debate kicks off at 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time. It will be streamed live via the Internet at ValuesVoterDebate.com and the website for the American Family Association.

It is also reported to be telecast on Sky Angel's Angel One channel & Dish Network channel #262.

Moderated by Joseph Farah, editor of WorldNetDaily

Candidates participating



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/17/2007 3:30:44 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture

The candidates no one supports debate on a channel no one watches.


2 posted on 09/17/2007 3:33:45 PM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: counterpunch

Two lies in one sentence. Nice job.

The door’s right behind ya.


3 posted on 09/17/2007 3:35:53 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’m in.


4 posted on 09/17/2007 3:36:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: counterpunch
The candidates no one supports debate on a channel no one watches.

And candidates who don't have respect for values voters don't win. No one in the GOP has learned a thing from 2006. Pure arrogance.

5 posted on 09/17/2007 3:45:48 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Compromise on your vote and you get a compromised government.)
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To: counterpunch

another Ron Paul tin foil hat wearer.

your Man is “Third Tier”

Gulianni, Thompson, and The Morman are not there because they havent got the Guts to answer tough questions


6 posted on 09/17/2007 3:46:46 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: LtKerst
another Ron Paul tin foil hat wearer.
your Man is “Third Tier”
Wow, you are a sharp one!
Ron Paul is one of the nobodies participating in this debate.
From what I can tell, everyone at the "ValueVoters" debate is "Third Tier."

I think second tier now is McCain and Romney.
 
7 posted on 09/17/2007 3:50:35 PM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: counterpunch

Has John McCain even broken a half percent in the last couple of straw polls?


8 posted on 09/17/2007 4:02:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Thank you CCC.


9 posted on 09/17/2007 4:10:35 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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Pre-debate stuff streaming now. Just finished with Pledge of Allegiance.


10 posted on 09/17/2007 4:12:16 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: pissant; WalterSkinner; Calpernia; Tennessee Nana

Ping

http://valuesvoterdebate.com/livestream.cfm?host_id=f2a


11 posted on 09/17/2007 4:12:37 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: counterpunch

:) Well, just make sure you don’t watch it either then.


12 posted on 09/17/2007 4:12:39 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: CounterCounterCulture

This should be on C-SPAN 8, the Ocho.


13 posted on 09/17/2007 4:14:34 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: CounterCounterCulture; AuntB

Thank you!


14 posted on 09/17/2007 4:14:40 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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4th stanza of Star-Spangled Banner! Now the first.


15 posted on 09/17/2007 4:15:09 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: HonestConservative; mkjessup; mom4kittys; Sun; Guenevere; Brad's Gramma; circumbendibus; gidget7; ..

http://valuesvoterdebate.com/livestream.cfm?host_id=f2a

Coming up in a few minutes.


16 posted on 09/17/2007 4:17:28 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: George W. Bush; KDD; JTN; Abcdefg; billbears; The_Eaglet; NapkinUser

PAUL PING

The right of an innocent, unborn child to life is at the heart of the American ideals of liberty. My professional and legislative record demonstrates my strong commitment to this pro-life principle.

In 40 years of medical practice, I never once considered performing an abortion, nor did I ever find abortion necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman.

In Congress, I have authored legislation that seeks to define life as beginning at conception, HR 1094.

I am also the prime sponsor of HR 300, which would negate the effect of Roe v Wade by removing the ability of federal courts to interfere with state legislation to protect life. This is a practical, direct approach to ending federal court tyranny which threatens our constitutional republic and has caused the deaths of 45 million of the unborn.

Many talk about being pro-life. I have taken direct action to restore protection for the unborn. As an OB/GYN doctor, I’ve delivered over 4,000 babies. That experience has made me an unshakable foe of abortion. Many of you may have read my book, Challenge To Liberty, which champions the idea that there cannot be liberty in a society unless the rights of all innocents are protected. Much can be understood about the civility of a society in observing its regard for the dignity of human life.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/life-and-liberty/

17 posted on 09/17/2007 4:17:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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Phyllis Schlafly!


18 posted on 09/17/2007 4:18:29 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: AuntB; All

Time for the most important debate!

They will talk about life, marriage, and borders, and I don’t know what else.


19 posted on 09/17/2007 4:22:29 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: cripplecreek

John McCain is doing pretty well on his “No Surrender” Tour.
He was touring the country in support of victory while Ron Paul was in San Francisco on 9/11 raising money from ‘truthers’ and calling for retreat.

And McCain is on the road today in support of winning in Iraq while Ron Paul is attending this so-called “valueVoters” debate.
Sorta puts the whole thing in perspective.


20 posted on 09/17/2007 4:24:10 PM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: Sun

The Constitution. :-)


21 posted on 09/17/2007 4:24:53 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: counterpunch

I couldn’t care less about Ron Paul but if McQueeg can’t break 1 percent in the straw polls he’s toast.


22 posted on 09/17/2007 4:26:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: counterpunch

Just like a kid. Rather than do as a grown up would do, which would of course be to see a thread you have no interest in, and just bypass it. You chose instead to come in and make a juvenile comment. ROFL

Why is it some folks can’t resist the urge to do that?


23 posted on 09/17/2007 4:28:00 PM PDT by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

“The Constitution. :-)”

Thanks, and this is Constitution Day!


24 posted on 09/17/2007 4:29:34 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: Sun

Here we go!


25 posted on 09/17/2007 4:29:58 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sun

SHOWTIME


26 posted on 09/17/2007 4:30:02 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Joseph Farah (WorldNetDaily) on stage


27 posted on 09/17/2007 4:31:56 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: All

On The Issues....duncanHunter_logo

FAIR & EQUITABLE TRADE

Fair Trade, Not Free Trade = Jobs / Packed House in Mission Valley

China Cheating  on Trade / America is a GREAT Nation

SECOND AMENDMENT

Glen & Helen Show / CA Bullet Serialization / A Keyboard and a .45 /Armed & Free

ECONOMY & TAXES

Address to Fair Tax Rally 05-15-07 / Address to CPAC / Fiscal Conservativism

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD

Iraq Resolution / Hunter vs. Democrats / Surge is Working

Senate Amnesty Bill / Amnesty Fails / Amnesty Fails Again  / Hunter Vs. Murtha

LEGAL REFORM

Gonzales Firings / Pardon Scooter? / ”Fairness” Doctrine

Border Agents Compean & Ramos / Defending Border Agents

ENDORSEMENTS

Appeal to Conservatives / General Chuck Yeager / Conservative Voice

Ann Coulter / Magnificent! / Favorite

Announcement – Part 1 & Part 2 / Music Video On the Road to the Oval Office

Conservative Case / A Fresh Face / Blog Collection / Constitution Party / Grassroots HQ

EDUCATION

No Child Left Behind

HEALTHCARE

Ronald Reagan Health Care / ‘National’ HealthCare / “One step closer to socialism”

IMMIGRATION

Border Enforcement is Homeland Security / NAFTA / Secure Border

Building a Fence / “Jobs Americans won’t do”? / Wake Up America 07-19-07

Enforce the Law / No Amnesty / Party of One / Ted Hayes

SAFETY & SECURITY

Dubai Ports / Cooking with Hunter / War On Terror / To America’s Critics / JFK Plot

Mark Steyn on 1986 Amnesty / Firefighter’s Forum / CSIS Forum / Katrina Summit

FAITH & VALUES

Blogs for Life / Judicial Appointments / Right to Life Rally / Hunter's Faith

Terri Shaivo / Mt. Soledad Cross  - Flyer / Roe vs. Wade / Hate Crimes

INTERVIEWS

Dennis Miller (June 1st – 3rd Hour) / Michael Illions

Roger Hedgecock (4/6, 4/24, 4/25, 6/8, 6/29, 7/2, 7/17, 7/19)

Laura Ingraham – Part 1 & Part 2 / Steve Malzberg 06-19-07

Brian Preston – Hot Air / William Gheen - ALIPAC

WRKO Pundit Review Radio / Polipundit Radio / Tom McLaughlin

Kevin McCullough – Musclehead Revolution / John Hawkins

NHPR’s Laura Knoy on The Exchange / Irving Baxter

WESH – Orlando (Conversation with the Candidate) / Wolf Blitzer

 Hardball 07-30-2007 / Hardball - Al Sharpton / George Stephanopolis

 Charlie Rangel – Part 1 & Part 2 / Dennis Kucinich – Part 1 & Part 2

Glenn Beck / JD Hayworth 1 & 2 / Tom McLaughlin / Neil Cavuto

DEBATES

Reagan Library 05-03-07 / After Interview

South Carolina 05-15-07 / Fox Interview

New Hampshire 06-05-07 / Spin Room - NH/ Lynne Hunter

Iowa Presidential Candidate Forum 06-30-07

Iowa 08-05-07 / Hunter vs Paul / After the Debate / De Moines 07-06-07

POLLS

Hunter Beats McCain / Maricopa County, Arizona 01-13-07

Spartanburg, South Carolina 03-01-07 / SC GOP Conventions 04-16-07

Anderson County, South Carolina 04-17-07 / Free Republic / Coryell, Tx / Texas Win

ADDITIONAL AUDIO & VIDEOS

Young Republicans - Part1 - Part2 - Part3 / Texas Straw Poll Speech

Core Principles / BIG STORY WEEKEND with Julie Bandaras / Latest Articles

Brian & the Judge: 01-10-2007 / 02-08-2007 / 03-12-2007/ Cost of WH Run

The Right Balance hosted by Greg Allen / Still in the Race / Duncan D. Hunter

 


28 posted on 09/17/2007 4:32:05 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: All

I’m on a local dial up, in the PA woods.

Please keep me posted!


29 posted on 09/17/2007 4:32:24 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: All; CounterCounterCulture; RasterMaster

Hooray! This is exciting!


30 posted on 09/17/2007 4:33:11 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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Empty podiums for absent presidential candidates. LOL :-)


31 posted on 09/17/2007 4:33:50 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Sun

Empty podiums will get questions....wonder how FRed will answer?


32 posted on 09/17/2007 4:34:07 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: cripplecreek

Straw polls are about all Hunter supporters have left to cling to, aren’t they?
And yet from what I remember, Hunter came in dead last in the only straw poll anyone has paid any attention to so far.
Straw polls teach us something about the Law of Small Numbers, don’t you think?
On the other hand, the latest Rasmussen has McCain in 3rd ahead of “straw poll favorite” Romney.


33 posted on 09/17/2007 4:34:20 PM PDT by counterpunch (Ron Paul is gearing up to be Hillary Clinton's Ross Perot.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
FRed Thompson....


34 posted on 09/17/2007 4:36:09 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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candidates announced (in order)...

Mike Huckabee
Tom Tancredo
John Cox
Sam Brownback
Ron Paul
Duncan Hunter
Alan Keyes


35 posted on 09/17/2007 4:36:12 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: RasterMaster

Maybe he’ll go on Leno’s again tonight. :)

Or maybe all of the GOP so-called 1st tier candidates are at a special meeting with the Dems who also refused to do this debate.


36 posted on 09/17/2007 4:37:19 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-life/borders, understands Red China threat! http://www.gohunter08.com/Home.aspx)
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To: RasterMaster

I would have put windsocks on the empty podiums.


37 posted on 09/17/2007 4:37:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I’m very disappointed Fred Thompson won’t be there. He may have lost my vote. I’m looking to hear what Duncan Hunter has to say on the issues.


38 posted on 09/17/2007 4:39:11 PM PDT by pctech
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To: Sun

“They will talk about life, marriage, and borders”

Explains why NONE of the top tier candidates aren’t present!


39 posted on 09/17/2007 4:39:13 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: RasterMaster

I love the fact that they left four empty podiums up there for the candidates who didn’t bother to come and talk to social conservatives.


40 posted on 09/17/2007 4:39:39 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: AuntB

Thanks for the link!


41 posted on 09/17/2007 4:39:48 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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To: cripplecreek

Cardboard cut-outs....then play cricket sounds when questioned....better yet “DUH...I don’t know”.


42 posted on 09/17/2007 4:40:01 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Where’s Fred?


43 posted on 09/17/2007 4:41:57 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: counterpunch

Why don’t you change your tagline? You’ve been told a million times that Paul is not going to run as a 3rd party candidate, and we all know Hillary isn’t a Republican so there’s no way Paul can “help” her in the primaries.


44 posted on 09/17/2007 4:42:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Hillary Clinton is the most corrupt presidential candidate to ever run for office)
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To: Inspectorette

Oops - none of the top guys are there!?


45 posted on 09/17/2007 4:42:58 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Inspectorette

Attending the HOLLYWOOD VALUES VOTER debate?


46 posted on 09/17/2007 4:43:02 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster

Pretty much every one of the "first tier candidates", in both major political parties, are empty suits: Giuliani, Romney, Thomson, Clinton, Edwards and especially Obama. They all have focus groups and scripted speeches.

47 posted on 09/17/2007 4:43:14 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo or Ron Paul in 2008!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Did we have to start this thing out with a bash the USA song?


48 posted on 09/17/2007 4:43:16 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (Support America, Support Duncan Hunter for President.)
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To: Inspectorette

Waiting to see what positions he should take tomorrow I assume.


49 posted on 09/17/2007 4:43:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

If Paul were around today, he wouldn’t cross the Potomac... he and his Troofer allies would double-cross it.

I have the feeling that 75% of the viewers of this debate are the posters on this thread, minus me.

I like Tanc and Hunter, but realistically neither has a shot.

As for the rest - all the Paul fans I’ve met in person have been total truther type kookballs with a handfull of goldbugs mixed in, and I’ve never met a supporter for the others.


50 posted on 09/17/2007 4:43:25 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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