Posted on 09/19/2007 5:07:07 PM PDT by Pikamax
No offense meant to you or intelligent conservatives in Canada! Look, I’m part Canadian in family and ancestry, back to 1635 (ok, pre-Canadian) .... I only mean to mock the kind of liberal socialists who also predominate in Massachusetts (where I grew up), the ones who ridicule and disparage and marginalize people like FReepers for any concern about border security. I notice from some of your posts that we agree on just about everything you have posted about - so I am not referring to good conservative Canadians like you, only to those baaaaaad socialist Canadians who have been mocking and condescending to me and my friends for as long as I can remember.
And, the Canucks can't own guns, eh!
Gee, and Bush keeps telling us there’s no way to get these people out of the country.
I lived in Mexico for 2 years. Not that bad but I had money. Poverty in Mexico is real poverty, not like here.
An old rust bucket freighter came from Germany about seven years ago. 124 "Asian Indians" came ashore in small boats. Nova Scotians had to entertain them. They lied like well laid rugs. Refugees from India, said they. Yet it was civilized Germany where they had debarked. Canada prosecuted the German skipper. For all I know, they are still living the life of Riley here. Even maybe in the USA. Well, at least the flow is limited. Now for my lame sense of humour:
When we see the venerable and affable broadcaster Lloyd Robertson ending the CTV news with his usual little light fillip. When he dons a sombrero and attempts a bit of hispanic, we will know we will have to cultivate yet another culture. Perhaps the august ladies of the CBC will flaunt their hips in some outrageous tango.
Get with it Amigos.
Well put.
It's certainly not easy to be a gun owner in that country. I think governments in general don't like citizens to be self-reliant in any way and that would include defending oneself. Governments want you to be dependent on them, so they can more easily control you, so you will lose more and more personal power and freedom to them. Elected officials tend to see themselves as a breed apart and see us as a problem to be managed, much like you would manage a herd of cattle. It's hard to find a candidate who doesn't take that attitude.
Think of it as tough love. We've been giving our pols Heck. Now you all need to do the same with yours :)
I don’t think anyone means to create any bad feelings with Canada, we like Canada! I feel we’re quite blessed to have a neighbor like you.
We’re just so darn happy to get rid of all the illegals we can, we don’t care where they go, just that they go! And besides, your country has been saying they need immigrants. I have read articles like that. From what I hear they’re all hard working and take the jobs no one else will do.
At least they’re going to your country legally. They didn’t even come to ours legally.
My sympathy to you and other conservatives there.
Mike
I think the Ortegas are real enough. The paper has pictures. I want to know whether or not the reporters put the story together from scratch, or if it was spoon-fed to them by people with an agenda.
All reporters have sources, and we must expect them to go to relevant sources for information. My issue is, did the reporters go to their sources, or did their sources go to them with a pre-cooked tale (Senator Simpson’s unannounced story floating in over the transom), however true the details of the tale might be.
We know most reporters have agendas. Maybe it shouldn’t be that way, but it is. And we must suspect that always has been the case. It is possible, we must admit, for reporters to push their own agenda while pursuing genuine stories, at least part of the time. I would like to find out if this particular story is a result of reporters pushing their own agenda, or not, as the case may be, or if it is a case of two reporters willingly functioning as propaganda tools at the service of other (we must assume compatible) interests.
It suprises me that you would take that as proof that the "Ortegas" are who they are claimed to be. Remember Dan Rather's staged photos from Vietnam? How about the more recent examples from Iraq? Does it make sense that people who are in the country illegally and are leaving Florida because they fear arrest and deportation, would agree to have themselves identified by name and by photograph? Does Ortega believe that Canadians don't read US newspapers? What is the likelihood that these reporters verified that the Ortegas are, in fact, here illegally, as they reportedly claim?
I share your interest in knowing just how these reporters hooked up with the "Ortegas," but I'm far more interested in knowing how they verified the facts of the story before publication.
Long experience has taught me that the surest approach is to assume reporters are lying unless proven otherwise.
If it makes you feel any better, I’m much more comfortable living in the border state I’m in now (Idaho) than the border state I used to live in (”New” Mexico).
I am pretty concerned that the Salvation Army is helping these guys. I thought they were a good charity.
Ms Bean - given the apparently generous welfare benefits your government is apparently providing to these people, it is fair to expect that you will soon get more of them.
Given that the Loonie hit parity, or nearly so, with the US dollar today, I would suggest that you and like minded Canadians should make hay while the sun shines. The number of welfare cases your country is about to receive will, at a minimum, be very, very expensive. The American experience has been that these folks consume a lot more government largesse than they put back into the system. And, by and large, the ones that do work tend to be unskilled labor.
Accordingly, were I in your situation I would view the Loonie / US Dollar parity as temporary, and take what advantage you can while the opportunity presents itself.
Oh yeah, that is still the US taxpayer's money anyway.
I hope they are smart enough to start deporting illegals immediately, en masse.
It is no crime to return a Mexican to Mexico.
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