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Excerpt from 2nd column: Are feds hiding crash imagery?


Posted: September 20, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Three weeks ago, I wrote about the FBI's unwitting revelation of a potential smoking gun in the TWA Flight 800 case.

I refer specifically to an amateur video shot five days before the plane's demise. The video captured an image, concedes the FBI, "consistent with the exhaust plume from a MANPAD [Man-portable air-defense] missile."

I argued that the suppression of this video for 11 years strengthens the case that other imagery – in particular an amateur video shot on the night of the crash, July 17, 1996 – might also have been suppressed.

This argument elicited some provocative responses from some very good sources. Let me cite a few. The first one comes from Atlanta, Ga.

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1 posted on 09/20/2007 7:33:51 PM PDT by cgk
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I’d give you about even money a forum participant named _Jim will show up on this thread.


89 posted on 09/20/2007 8:55:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hillary has hay fever. There she goes now... "Ha Hsu, ha hsu, haaaa hsu, ha hsu...")
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JMHO :

Basic data
Function short-range anti-air missile
Manufacturer KBM
Unit cost USD 60,000–80,000 (as of 2003)
Entered service 1983
General characteristics
Engine solid fuel rocket motor
Launch mass 10.8 kg
Length 1.574 m
Diameter 72 mm
Speed 700 m/s, about Mach 2
Range 5.2 km
Service ceiling 3.5 km
Warhead 1.17 kg with 390 g explosive
Guidance two color infrared
Fuzes contact and grazing fuzes
(Wiki)
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This type has the range/speed/warhead/fuse-type to take down that aircraft,,,
The newer ones are much better,,,they will turn into the body of the aircraft before they hit the “hot-spot”,,,

list :

Anza (missile)
Mistral
FIM-43 ‘Redeye’
FIM-92 ‘Stinger’
9K32M ‘Strela-2’ (SA-7)
RBS 70
9K36 ‘Strela-3’ (SA-14)
9K38 ‘Igla’ (SA-18)
9K310 ‘Igla-M’ (SA-16)
KP-SAM “Shin Gung”
Blowpipe
Javelin
Starburst
Starstreak
Type 91[3]
Type 93
China HN-5A/B
China QW-1/2
China FN-6
Iran Misagh-1 and Misagh-2

Pick One...

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu4vyO_NGmKoArFBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE5YjN0OHMzBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0gwMTNfMTk0BGwDV1Mx/SIG=11odcjhc1/EXP=1190432114/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MANPADS


93 posted on 09/20/2007 9:04:24 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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Ahhh, TWA Flight 800. I’ll tell you this. A few years ago,I ordered a copy of the the brief Press Conference Billy Jeff Clintoon held shortly after this occurred. He was shaken to his core as a human being in regards to this incident. If you haven’t watched it or ever seen it, it’s only about 9-12 minutes long, it is fascinating to see this (sorry excuse for a) man looking so totally ill at ease and disturbed in front of the camera. It’s a classic and historical brief piece of film. They’ll surely never include this brief press conference at his Presidential Library, I’ll assure you of that.


98 posted on 09/20/2007 9:17:03 PM PDT by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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Not to worry folks, I ajm little over half way through with NIGHTFAÑLL, written by Nelson DeMille about this same subject. By tomorrow I should be able to tell you what and who blew up TWA800.


107 posted on 09/20/2007 9:41:57 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Could the terrorist who is responsible for this be coming to speak at Columbia University?


108 posted on 09/20/2007 9:42:40 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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Naw, the Feds are up front with the American people...They would never hide anything...


115 posted on 09/20/2007 10:05:28 PM PDT by dragnet2
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Islamism.


117 posted on 09/20/2007 10:11:51 PM PDT by onedoug
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Over 20 people reported seeing something like a surface to air missile. Remember similar incidents on the west coast. I believe an Alaskan and Hawaiian Airlines flights that went down over water in similar circumstances.
120 posted on 09/20/2007 10:20:08 PM PDT by Sammy67 (Other Flights Downed)
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I doubt a shoulder launched missile would of brought down, in that fashion a 747. First the range would of been extreme, especially for a Soviet, but even American missile. Second, it would of tracked on the exhaust plume of one of the four engines. If it managed to hit the engine, losing the engine woud not of immediately brought the plane down. There is a fair chance the aircraft could of returned with a engine gone. Happens all the time. Anyways, there would of been radio communication, and cockpit voice of the pilots dealing with an engine failure. How long have video cameras been in existence? Do you think if some Islamic idiots did this they would not of filmed and claimed credit?
131 posted on 09/21/2007 1:06:28 AM PDT by Leisler (Just be glad you're not getting all the Government you pay for.)
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136 posted on 09/21/2007 4:18:53 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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“Adding a new level of intrigue to the investigation is the fact that the video in question appears to have been shot on July 12, 1996, five days before the crash. “

The missile hung in the air for five days? That beats the so-called “Magic Bullet” of the Conspiracy Theorists.


142 posted on 09/21/2007 4:31:07 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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Being from Kansas City and knowing of Jack over the years is the one thing that has kept my mind open to the allegations of Federal manipulation. I have to ask myself, if Jack has been on this track hw can I ignore it?


180 posted on 09/21/2007 6:32:39 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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There’s no way to prove it, but I think that this was not a fuel tank explosion, that it was a mistake by the military under Clinton, that he ordered the FBI to cover it up, and Bush came into office with the promise to continue the coverup.
I hope we find out the truth one day.


181 posted on 09/21/2007 6:38:50 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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The only conspiracy I believe in here is the one our own federal government perpetrated on the American people as to the cause of this crash.

736 eye witnesses saw a bright flash rising UP and hit the plane (a missile). The CIA tried to convince us that the bright light was debris floating DOWN from the plan contrary to all of the witnesses.

Give me a break.

Here is a 6 part series on Youtube. The last 2 sections give most of the evidence for a terrorist attack via 2 surface to air missiles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em6hZ-ZKsRc 5 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Nm2Ql1-qk 6 of 6

Bill Clinton didn't want to have to deal with terrorism, especially Islamic terrorism and sully his presidency with having to respond, so he ignored it and had all involved government agencies cover up the real cause.

196 posted on 09/21/2007 8:04:04 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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I knew that plane was taken down by a missile, I always believed that to be the case. The thing is if the terrorists did it and got away with it why did they stop?


211 posted on 09/21/2007 12:40:05 PM PDT by Scythian
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