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Following President’s Speech, Public Remains Divided on Iraq
Rasmussen Reports ^ | September 17, 2007 | Rasmussen Reports/avacado

Posted on 09/24/2007 8:26:23 AM PDT by avacado

Given that moonbats love their useless polls, here are some numbers from Rasmussen Reports that are sure to get their wings flapping. And yes, I am cherry picking the report just as Harry Reid and his losers love to do.

Following President’s Speech, Public Remains Divided on Iraq

- By a 50% to 38% margin, women want Congress to force a troop withdrawal. By a 49% to 43% margin, men disagree.

- Among those who saw the speech, 53% said that Congress should support the President’s approach while 36% disagree.

- By a 49% to 43% margin, those who saw the speech opposed Congressional action to withdraw troops.

- Among those who watched the President’s speech, 47% said it was good or excellent. Twenty-one percent (21%) said fair and 32% said poor.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: iraq; polls; wot
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Just somke kindling for the fire...
1 posted on 09/24/2007 8:26:25 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

IOW the Madison avenue style anti-war drumbeat has found women’s minds more maliable to lies than other specific groups.


2 posted on 09/24/2007 8:30:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: avacado

Congress: 11% approval rating. ‘Nuff said.


3 posted on 09/24/2007 8:31:00 AM PDT by saganite
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To: avacado

Thanks for posting this. It makes me wonder where these Dems are getting the figures for their talking points, that “the majority of this country is against the war.”


4 posted on 09/24/2007 8:33:00 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: avacado
53% said that Congress should support the President’s approach while 36% disagree
6 posted on 09/24/2007 8:41:07 AM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: avacado

“Among those who saw the speech, 53% said that Congress should support the President’s approach while 36% disagree.”

Knowledge is power.

Reminds me of the stats re: man is causing global warming. Once exposed to the research on the other side, they change their opinion.

The speech wasn’t even good, but the point is, when the Dems’ constant defeatism sound bites are rebutted, people choose victory.


7 posted on 09/24/2007 8:41:29 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (www.daypo.net/test-iraq-war.html)
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To: avacado
"Among those who saw the speech, 53% said that Congress should support the President’s approach while 36% disagree.

"- By a 49% to 43% margin, those who saw the speech opposed Congressional action to withdraw troops.

"- Among those who watched the President’s speech, 47% said it was good or excellent. Twenty-one percent (21%) said fair and 32% said poor."

I must say these are GOOD numbers. A majority saying the congress should SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S approach in Iraq" means a majority support the war in Iraq and think we can win.

A majority opposing congress forcing a retreat, even a narrow one, can me interpreted as "a narrow majority of Americans support our troops in Iraq and oppose a withdrawl."

And yes, it WAS a very good speech.

LOL...you can cherrypick the info to support what we believe, and I'll parse it better than Dan.

8 posted on 09/24/2007 8:41:43 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: JackRyanCIA
"Moon bats love polls only if the poll results support their position. Watch them scream manipulation if someone gives them poll numbers that disagree with their position ala Biden last week. Most polls are a bunch of BS propaganda."

A moonbat friend of mine (known for 20+ years) and I were talking on the phone. We somehow got to Bush and he states that ALL Americans are against Bush. I told him that the last official poll on Bush was in 2004 and Bush won by almost 4 million more votes and that he was being easily duped by polls designed to lead you around by your nose. He hung up on me.

9 posted on 09/24/2007 8:43:59 AM PDT by avacado
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To: longtermmemmory
"IOW the Madison avenue style anti-war drumbeat has found women’s minds more maliable to lies than other specific groups."

I'm not so sure. I'm a woman, I support the entire WoT (anyone remember Afghanistan?; the media doesn't) and nobody called me. I sometimes wonder if people who do these surveys don't carefully pick their calling areas in order to ensure the results will be weighted toward uberleftists.

10 posted on 09/24/2007 8:47:44 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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"He hung up on me"

Wow, the reaction was a bit overboard. They really can't stand to have their fantasies jeopardized. Do the two of you still speak?

11 posted on 09/24/2007 8:52:05 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: cake_crumb
"Wow, the reaction was a bit overboard. They really can't stand to have their fantasies jeopardized. Do the two of you still speak?"

He called back about 4 hours later and apologized. He's in a real quagmire. I think he'd be a Republican but his wife is a raging moonbat. He's sort of stuck. I keep asking him why he wants to vote Democrat and have more of his paycheck missing. But it's useless talking to a Bush-hater.

12 posted on 09/24/2007 8:56:57 AM PDT by avacado
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To: jrooney

By those that watched the speech.


13 posted on 09/24/2007 9:12:14 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: avacado
“Following President’s Speech, Public Remains Divided on Iraq”

Divided between two bad positions. No one even considers the third position.

The invasion of Iraq had some very positive results, most notable the death of Saddam Hussein, and the elimination of a terrorist supporting government.

The attempted establishment of a democratic government in Iraq, however, was an idealistic yet naive quest, that was doomed for failure. Islamic culture is incompatible with freedom and democracy. A look at any of the current governments of countries with Islamic majority populations should have warned against that.

Following the capture and execution of Saddam, while the invasion and liberation of the Iraqi people was still popular with them, we should have left with the warning that if any subsequent leader crossed us, we would be back to pound them again. Muslims respect power only. Diplomacy and concessions they see as weakness, and in their culture, the weak are exploited.

If we had been smart, we would have left long ago. Now if we leave, all the work we have done in Iraq up till now will be lost, because instead of leaving as conquerors as we could have right after Saddam's capture, if we leave now, we leave defeated. Now, there are no good alternatives. Leaving shows weakness, and staying creates hostility and costs a billion dollars a day.

What is really unsettling is that no one seems to have learned from our Iraq experience. Politicians still parrot George Bush’s mantra that Islam is a religion of peace, and they ignore the wide spread support Islamic radicals get from the mainstream Islamic public. They still can’t seem to grasp that when Muslims are given the vote, they vote for Mullahs and Islamic leaders who will take the vote and their freedom away from them.

Until we understand these simple lessons we will never find a solution to Islamic terrorism.

14 posted on 09/24/2007 9:29:02 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

Good post!


15 posted on 09/24/2007 9:33:49 AM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado
"He's sort of stuck. I keep asking him why he wants to vote Democrat and have more of his paycheck missing. But it's useless talking to a Bush-hater."

It's a shame, but there's just no helping some people.

16 posted on 09/24/2007 9:38:10 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: avacado

bttt


17 posted on 09/24/2007 9:50:48 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: monday
It's not an Islamist regime. They wrote their idea of freedom of religion into their constitution. It wasn't perfect. They are trying. Democracy was THEIR IDEA. They KNOW what secularism is, and many of them LIKE it. Their mistake was in trying to encompass too many special interests, well...interests.

The mistake too many "conservatives" make is thinking Iraqis are just like Americans. They aren't. Because they're not Americans. Conversely, all Democrats feel that Iraqis are now subjects of American imperialism and had better stay on the plantation and do what they're told. This ticks them off, and I don't blame them a bit.

Any was you slice it, cutting after Saddam's fall and running when REAL Islamists are trying to impose REAL Sharia law would have been a disaster, making whatever gains previously made pointless.

18 posted on 09/24/2007 9:57:11 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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“Any was you slice it, cutting after Saddam’s fall and running when REAL Islamists are trying to impose REAL Sharia law would have been a disaster, making whatever gains previously made pointless.”

Real Muslims want to live under real Sharia law, at least they think they do. In Iran the younger generation are having second thoughts, but so far, not enough to do anything about it.

Anyway, if they want to live under Sharia law and vote to do so, how are we going to stop them without subverting democracy?

In Turkey the Muslim populace has voted into power an Islamic government. This isn’t an unusual occurrence. It happens at regular intervals, but the Turkish constitution stipulates that the military intervene when Islamic governments are elected. They have in the past, and are threatening to do so again. This is the only way a democratic government with a majority Muslim population can remain secular. All other secular governments with Muslim populations are either dictatorships or monarchies.

You really think Iraqis are different? that they won’t vote to enslave themselves in an Islamic theocracy?

19 posted on 09/24/2007 10:23:51 AM PDT by monday
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To: cake_crumb

I think pollsters are like global warming sensors.

They exist only in cities and convenient locations for the readers.

Just like the exit pollsters in 2004 were ONLY in urban locations and totally ignored rural locations. Push polling is BY DESIGN only happening in convenient areas which intent to increase the likelyhood of a leftward tilt.

sort of like “we randomly selected people comming out of this DNC meeting...”


20 posted on 09/24/2007 2:06:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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