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Evangelicals turn on Thompson
Politico ^ | September 26, 2007 | Jonathan Martin

Posted on 09/26/2007 5:49:53 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah

Thompson's refusal to back a nationwide ban on gay marriage has irritated potential supporters.

Fred Thompson is failing to meet expectations that he would rally widespread support from Christian conservatives, and he almost certainly will not receive a joint endorsement from the loose coalition of "pro-family" organizations, according to leaders of the movement.

Many religious conservatives, faced with a Republican primary top tier that lacked a true kindred spirit, initially looked to Thompson as a savior. But the former Tennessee senator has disappointed or just not sufficiently impressed the faith community since his formal campaign launch earlier this month.

While Christian conservatives once seemed willing to readily give Thompson the benefit of the doubt earlier this summer, when questions were raised about his lobbying for a pro-abortion-rights group, they are not willing to turn the other cheek anymore.

Even some on the religious right who remain sympathetic to Thompson are unhappy about his refusal to back a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, and were unpleasantly surprised by his confession that he doesn’t belong to or attend any church and won’t talk about his faith.

It was Thompson’s refusal to discuss his faith that is likely to deny him any unified backing from the organizations that comprise the Arlington Group, the umbrella coalition of almost every major social conservative group in the GOP constellation.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; arlingtongroup; christianvote; electionpresident; elections; evangelicals; fredthompson; homosexualagenda; rino; rinoalert; thompson
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To: Petronski

The inclusion of the word “EVERYONE” (changes their minds) is what caught my eye. Everyone? Really? Says who? Says what?

Just more typical run-of-the-mill manufactured BS...


101 posted on 09/26/2007 6:54:31 PM PDT by jdm
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To: L98Fiero

How many liberals want to prevent queers from marrying?


102 posted on 09/26/2007 6:55:59 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: jdm
Just more typical run-of-the-mill manufactured BS...

...posted in an attempt to prop up Willard.

103 posted on 09/26/2007 6:56:24 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: Brilliant

#####I’m part of the religious right. But we’ve got to recognize that we’re a minority. If you insist that your candidate adopt all of the positions of a minority group, he will lose. Pick one or two, and give them some slack on the others.#####

I agree with you. The President doesn’t have any real say-so on constitutional amendments in the first place. So I wouldn’t refuse to support Thompson over this issue.

However, if we don’t enact the FMA, the result ultimately will be a massive transfer of power to the federal government.


104 posted on 09/26/2007 6:56:24 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations.)
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To: Petronski

You’re right. I just did a site:politico.com Jonathan Martin search and that writer is clearly has it out for Thompson, going several months back, even (maybe longer, not sure).


105 posted on 09/26/2007 7:00:04 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Grunthor
fanaticism - excessive intolerance of opposing views

fanatism, zealotry

intolerance - unwillingness to recognize and respect differences in opinions or beliefs

Only in your mind!

106 posted on 09/26/2007 7:01:05 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: ASOC
is he like the pope or something for a particular group?

He's just another carnival sideshow preacher with a political agenda. Just wait a few years...we'll probably be hearing a televised confession of how he's lusted after some tennie-bopper or how the toe-tappiong incident in the men's room of some rest stop on I-25 was a lapse in moral character.

107 posted on 09/26/2007 7:03:29 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: org.whodat

It really is a yes or no question. Are you or are you not saying that Christians in the United States are on par with the beheading jihadis?


108 posted on 09/26/2007 7:05:52 PM PDT by Grunthor (If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

That’s pretty unfair to Dr. Dobson. I don’t agree with him on Fred Thompson but he’s been a good fighter for conservative causes.


109 posted on 09/26/2007 7:06:00 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations.)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Mitt Romney and Duncan Hunter are nothing alike. Why would you say that?


110 posted on 09/26/2007 7:07:27 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: kingu

100% legally WRONG.

I have been to the bar conferences where the lawyers and judges have calculated they can essentially eradicate the common law definition of marriage via rulings.

You don’t know what you are talking about because an amendment is codifying the common law definition of marriage as One man and One woman. This, under statutory interpritation principles gives it the broadest protection.

It is not a narrow construction issue.

Marriage is ALREADY a federal issue via taxation, inheritance and immigration.

The fact Fred Thompson is getting firmer about dissing the marriage issue only speaks to his other stances.

this is a dealbreaker litmus test.

Fred Thompson better speak for himself instead of these surrogages. Either he is for a marriage amendment or he should just stop wasting our time and go home.


111 posted on 09/26/2007 7:10:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DTogo

Have a Miller Beerr.


112 posted on 09/26/2007 7:11:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Thompson’s refusal to back a nationwide ban on gay marriage...


Oooooh! That’ll REALLY hurt his chances in the general election!

Let’s go for a RINO or an unelectable fringe player, ‘cause they’ll be much more like to win and provide conservative leadership!

Next thing, you’ll find out he opposes a police state to put women who had abortions into gas chambers for MURDER!!!


113 posted on 09/26/2007 7:13:33 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: pissant

Don’t forget the McCain vanity fair article where he explicitly said “he would let homosexuals marry each other”


114 posted on 09/26/2007 7:13:53 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

#####Marriage is ALREADY a federal issue via taxation, inheritance and immigration.#####

And it’s already been declared a matter under federal jurisdiction in the Loving vs. Virginia 14th Amendment case. Combine Loving with Romer and Lawrence and we have the makings of a massive federal power grab on our hands.


115 posted on 09/26/2007 7:15:18 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

But Mitt is so DREAMY!

Which is why female Freepers seem to love him do much.

I guess the “kneepad factor” has invaded the GOP, unless it did in 2000.


116 posted on 09/26/2007 7:15:20 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: Beelzebubba

Hey!! Watch it with the female cracks. :p

I think Willard is creepy.


117 posted on 09/26/2007 7:16:17 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: longtermmemmory
You don’t know what you are talking about because an amendment is codifying the common law definition of marriage as One man and One woman. This, under statutory interpritation principles gives it the broadest protection.

Actually, I do know what I'm talking about. The /failure/ of a marriage amendment will mean that interpretation is on the table. Identify the 2/3rds of the legislatures that would vote for a marriage amendment. Not the states where the people have supported one man with one woman, but the state legislatures which will be voting on it.

At this time, you don't have the numbers to pass it. So, I'm sorry, but this dog don't hunt. It's a losing issue as an amendment. It /has/ to be dealt with on a voter amendment basis, not only to curtail the reach of the federal government, but also because at the ballot box, the voters will speak their minds, whereas their legislatures won't.

118 posted on 09/26/2007 7:17:01 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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119 posted on 09/26/2007 7:18:09 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Of the potential GOP front runners, FT has one of the better records on immigration.- NumbersUSA)
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To: tennteacher

Hunter is the great hope.


How many months or years of campaigning without breaking past 2% does a guy get before you write him off as unviable as a national candidate? 6? 10? 12?

Do you want “hope,” or a conservative President?


120 posted on 09/26/2007 7:18:15 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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