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Spitting on the Marines
The Corner, NRO Online ^ | 9/29/07 | Michael Ledeen

Posted on 09/29/2007 3:35:59 PM PDT by Bahbah

Spitting on the Marines [Michael Ledeen]

Here is an e-mail from a Marine chaplain recently returned from Iraq. The story speaks for itself—lousy treatment of our troops at our own airports. He writes about Oakland, and while checking around I find that this is a common experience. I hope that one of our leaders will find a way to put an end to such behavior.

Marines and Soldiers Returning from Iraq not allowed

into Oakland terminal

On September 27th 204 Marines and soldiers who were

returning from Iraq were not allowed into the

passenger terminal at Oakland International Airport.

Instead they had to deplane about 400 yards away from

the terminal where the extra baggage trailers were

located.

This was the last scheduled stop for fuel and food

prior to flying to Hawaii where both were based. The

trip started in Kuwait on September 26th with a

rigorous search of checked and carry on baggage by US

Customs. All baggage was x-rayed with a "backscatter"

machine AND each bag was completely emptied and hand

searched. After being searched, checked bags were

marked and immediately placed in a secure container.

Carry on bags were then x rayed again to ensure no

contraband items were taken on the plane. While

waiting for the bus to the airport, all personnel were

in quarantined in a fenced area and were not allowed

to leave.

The first stop for fuel/food and crew change was in

Leipzig Germany. Troops exited the aircraft and took

a bus to a reception area in the terminal, where there

was a convenience store, phones, Internet and

restrooms. As we excited the bus we were given a

re-boarding pass. Three troops remained on the plane

with the rifles and pistols. There was no ammunition

on the plane and the bolts of the rifles had been

removed. After about 2 hours troops re-boarded the

plane and flew to JFK in NY.

At JFK the procedure was similar to Germany, 3 troops

stayed on the plane to guard weapons while the rest

deplaned. At the gate we were each given a

re-boarding pass and spent about 1.5 hours in the

terminal, at which time we re-boarded and flew to

Oakland.

As we came in for the final approach to Oakland a

Lieutenant who served in Afghanistan with the same

unit in 2006 mentioned how when they landed in Oakland

they were not allowed in the terminal. He said, "they

made us get out by the FED EX building and we had to

sit out there for 3 hours". He also indicated he was

almost arrested by the TSA for getting belligerent

about them not letting the Marines into the terminal.

Well the same thing happened again. This time we did

not park by the FED EX building, instead we were

offloaded near the grass that separates the active

runway from the taxi ramp, about 400 yards from the

terminal. When we inquired why they wouldn't allow us

in the airport they gave us some lame excuse that we

hadn't been screened by TSA. While true, the

screening which we did have was much more thorough

than any TSA search and was done by US Customs.

Additionally, JFK didn't seem to have a problem with

our entering their terminal, nor did security in

Germany.

It felt like being spit on. Every Marine and soldier

felt the message loud and clear, "YOU ARE NOT WELCOME

IN OAKLAND!"

Chaplain Brandon Harding

1ST BN 3D MARINES


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: chaplain; ledeen; marines; misleadingheadline; oak; oakland
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To: celtic gal
just this week the Marines were denied the permission to film a recrutiting ad in SF and earlier this year the Navy was denied Fleet Week.

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I think you're mistaken. Fleet Week is a big time annual event in SF, and they're advertising for it for this year as well:

http://fleetweek.us/fleetweek

There was a single resolution introduced by a city councilman to require the Blue Angels to fly over water and not over a populated area, but it was voted down.

There's also another side to the Marine recruiting commercial story:

The city says it gave Tight Productions a permit that allowed them to film the Marines on Sept. 9. "We had carte blanche on Sunday, but we didn't have the Marines," Donald Block, the executive producer at Tight, tells USA TODAY.

The Marines weren't due until Sept. 11, according to the Silent Drill Platoon's website.

"We were locked into that Tuesday," Block says, adding that he's sure the police could have handled the traffic problems caused by the production crew. But that's only part of the equation. Because the director didn't choose the locations until a few days before they were scheduled to film, Block says the company didn't have time to get the required approvals from local residents who would have been inconvenienced during the filming.

"We didn't leave there feeling the least bit singled out," Block says. His crew shot generic streetscapes on Sunday, and then moved to a federal park where they filmed the men on Tuesday with the Golden Gate Bridge in the background.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/09/city-officials-.html


81 posted on 09/30/2007 2:36:04 AM PDT by ringer50
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To: isthisnickcool

Your reaction to the soldiers you encountered is very similar in spirit to what recently happened to my daughter and her Army guy.

He did two tours in Iraq and we spent the whole time he was gone praying, praying, praying. He made it through and we feel very blessed. He recently left for Kosovo, but before he left he spent a week with us here in New Orleans. While en route and walking through the airport to make a connecting flight he told us person after person came up to him to shake his hand. As he watched TV and waited for his flight in the airport bar, at 7:30 in the AM, people sent over beers for him. He said he laughed and thanked them, but he just couldn’t drink that early in the morning.

When he arrived here, he and my daughter did the tourist thing and went to the French Quarter,World War II museum etc. My daughter was flabbergasted at the response he received everywhere they went. The World War II veteran at the museum would not allow him, or any of the others with him, to pay. In the Quarter people came up and hugged him(he’s a BIG guy) and thanked him over and over. People in the restaurants payed for his food and drinks. He in turn handed out Iraqi money (he has lots) to well wishers. He even got to speak to and have a picture taken with actor Anthony Anderson, who is making the series K-Ville down here. Anderson too thanked him for his service.

It was a pretty amazing time for him and it restored my faith in my fellow human beings, at least some of them.


82 posted on 09/30/2007 4:37:56 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Bahbah

predictable


83 posted on 09/30/2007 6:43:03 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: tet68

We did coming back from gulf 1 (Desert Storm) TWA contract bird, deplaned at JFK in just the way the author describes, left gear guards on the aircraft to keep an eye on the weapons.

Semper Fi


84 posted on 09/30/2007 8:54:06 AM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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To: eyedigress; Bahbah
No, just truth in advertising, here I am thinking soldiers are being spit on, and it seems not to be the case. Problem?

Don't sweat the small stuff. It's not worth it.

Those Marines could tell you that. When one has been in Iraq for a while, so much of it back home is just small stuff and not worth getting in a dither about.

85 posted on 09/30/2007 12:29:54 PM PDT by Allegra (The Surge Works While the Democrats "Betray Us.")
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To: Allegra
When one has been in Iraq for a while, so much of it back home is just small stuff and not worth getting in a dither about.

I'm sure that is true, Allegra. Perspective is important. However, we at home did not pay attention during Viet Nam and let our military be subjected to one indignity after another. I do not believe we will ever allow that to happen again.

86 posted on 09/30/2007 12:37:04 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Army Air Corps
The left is replaying their old records from the 1960s.

Protesting the Vietnam War and celebrating Watergate were far and away the happiest times in their miserable lives, and they're desperate to relive them. No "free love" this time, however. ...or good music.

87 posted on 09/30/2007 12:44:07 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: Bahbah
My point is that the poster is obsessing about the article's title, not about the issue itself. He's made repeated complaints about the wording of the headline.

It's the title of an article for crying out loud.

I'm sure many people would give their eyeteeth to have the luxury to stress out about something so trivial.

88 posted on 09/30/2007 12:47:23 PM PDT by Allegra (The Surge Works While the Democrats "Betray Us.")
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To: Allegra

LOL, I get it now.


89 posted on 09/30/2007 12:50:40 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Allegra; Bahbah
I hear ye.

I just didn't understand why the author says "Spitting on the Marines" when that clearly didn't happen. Before you know it "spitting on marines" will mean anything, and I don't want that to happen.

90 posted on 09/30/2007 12:59:18 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: studly hungwell

At this point I, for one, am all for sucession due to the liberal babies. We should break away from the pansy winers that don’t like the military, etc. I think we could probably raise at least 38 states that would be glad to form a new union and let the rest deal with the WOT all by themselves. You can bet that they would come crying in a hurry when they start getting blown up at their local theaters, malls, etc.


91 posted on 09/30/2007 1:23:34 PM PDT by JEC ((Pray for ALL our troops))
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To: JEC

I know the Marine in question. He is actually a Navy Chaplain. The Navy supplies Chaplains to both the SeaBees and the Marines. He has completed two tours in Iraq, the first was with the SeaBees. He was then stationed in Southern California with the Navy and was transferred to HI last year, where he completed this most recent tour in Iraq with the Marines based out of Kaneohe, Hawaii. He’s an honorable man. I have no doubts about the veracity of his claims. While some have sought to focus on the “spitting” aspect of his e-mail, what really should be focused on is the thoughtless treatment these brave men and women received at the hands of OAK airport officials. The charter flight was operating under “sterile” conditions according to my contacts at TSA and the Marines and soldiers should have been granted the same access to the terminal at OAK that they were given at JFK. The OAK airport official’s statement is nothing but bureaucratic song and dance. They know they were in the wrong, they’ve treated troops returning from theater this way before (during the current conflict) and should immediately ensure they grant US soldiers traveling on charter flights operating under sterile conditions the same treatment the US public receives. OAK is after all a publicly funded airport.


92 posted on 10/01/2007 9:01:03 AM PDT by In NOVA (The Truth About the Marine)
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To: In NOVA

I know what you are saying. Since Friday, Sept. 21, my wife and I have traveled from Raleigh, NC to Tucson, AZ. We have been in RDU, Atlanta, Tucson, Minneapolis-St.Paul and back to RDU airports. Lay overs were long so I got to see a number of troops both male and female in the airports. ALL were treated with the respect, honor and dignity that these heroes deserve at each of these places. People were smiling to them, shaking there hands and just saying thanks for a job well done. It makes my blood boil when I see them treated as nothing more than common criminals by complete idiots who do not deserve any protection from those that wish us nothing but harm. Also, remember that two of these airports are in blue states.


93 posted on 10/01/2007 5:21:39 PM PDT by JEC ((Pray for ALL our troops))
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To: SoCalPol
I live in San Diego which is the largest area for Navy and Marines.

The daughter of my next door neighbors lives in San Diego and I have grown close to her because of helping her parents out with landscaping and things. She's here now because of a family health emergency.

Anyway, for the past year and a half she has kept inviting me to fly out there from here in Michigan to visit but I can't bring myself to contributing to the state after evidencing what has been going on in San Francisco and across the state........

I did tell here tho that if I ever relent and fly out to see here, my main objective is to visit the SD naval base...........

94 posted on 10/01/2007 5:42:20 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I could be Agent "HT")
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To: Hot Tabasco

Since 9/11 it is not easy to get on the bases.

San Diego has Camp Pendleton with over 65,000 Marines
We have the Marine Corp Recruit Depot.
also Miramar Marine Air Base, home of the 3rd Air Wing.

The Naval Station in San Diego is home to the majority of the Pacific Fleet. Among the ships are the Nuk Carriers,
Ronand Reagan and the Nimitz.

We have the Amphib Base, Home of the Navy Seals, Sub Base,
North Island Naval Air Station, and many other Naval Bases.

Also Navy Hospital, San Diego, largest Military Hosp.

San Diego County also votes Republican and one of our 5 S.D. congressmen is Duncan Hunter.


95 posted on 10/01/2007 6:42:06 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

FOAD pogue.


96 posted on 10/02/2007 2:49:23 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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