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Firefly Energy Expands Into Truck Market With Group 31 Battery
www.greencarcongress.com ^ | 03 Oct 2007 | Staff

Posted on 10/03/2007 12:43:31 PM PDT by Red Badger

Firefly Energy’s micro-cellular-based foam plates offer much greater surface area for optimizing the lead-acid chemistry than conventional lead plates.

Firefly Energy, the carbon-graphite foam lead-acid battery company (earlier post), is expanding into the trucking market with the commencement of a BCI Group 31 battery development program. Battery Council International (BCI) provides standardized definitions for physical dimensions of a wide variety of batteries, and the Group 31 size battery is a broadly-deployed battery type in trucks.

The company said the Firefly Group 31 battery will be initially available next summer with full production scheduled for the fourth quarter of 2008.

Firefly Energy’s development program comes several months before landmark trucking-related regulations take effect in the State of California. On 1 January 2008, diesel trucks operating in California face a five-minute idling limit. Traditional lead-acid batteries will be challenged by the severe strain of trying to support a trucker’s various “hotel loads” (air conditioning, TVs, etc.) which were previously powered by diesel engine idling. The result, says Firefly, will be premature battery failure since traditional lead acid batteries cannot easily withstand repeated deep discharging.

Truckers historically have bought batteries based on cold-cranking ratings and price. The game is now changing, and battery performance will become much more important in its contribution to trucker safety, comfort, and productivity. This calls for game-changing battery technology, which is why we are very excited to optimize our carbon-graphite foam lead acid battery technology for the needs of truckers. —Ed Williams, Firefly Energy CEO

The as yet un-named battery will have a sealed valve-regulated design. The primary characteristic of the first Firefly Energy lead acid battery is the inclusion of a high surface area, non-corrodible and light weight carbon-graphite foam material. Firefly Energy’s 3D carbon-graphite foam delivers more of the high power potential of lead acid chemistry which was impossible to achieve in the past.

The technology not only reduces the lead content making the batteries smaller and lighter, but additionally enables faster, deeper and more reliable discharges and recharges. This significantly extends the battery’s life, makes it more environmentally friendly, and less expensive than lithium and nickel battery chemistries.

While conventional deep-cycle lead acid batteries used in truck starting show sizeable performance drop-off after some 200 deep discharge cycles, the Firefly Energy battery is capable of achieving more than triple the deep cycles while still maintaining more than 90% of its initial capacity.

The company’s 3D battery offers continuous power through the discharge process, a fast recharge to 100% capacity, excellent vibration resistance and greater cold-starting capabilities.

Typical battery life is extended since sulfation is reduced. When tested in cold weather extremes at -20°C, the batteries were capable of delivering above 65% of their rated “room temperature” capacity compared to 20% or less for standard Group 31 batteries. This can help minimize alternator damage incurred while attempting cold-weather engine starts when batteries are low.

The Group 31 battery is similar to a battery Firefly Energy is developing for the US Army to give combat vehicles enough on-board electrical storage to power equipment without significantly decreasing battery life.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: auto; battery; energy; graphitefoam; pressrelease
Update from an months earlier post on the Graphite Foam Battery technology developed by Caterpillar subsidiary Firefly Energy.................. http://www.fireflyenergy.com/
1 posted on 10/03/2007 12:43:36 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Uncledave; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...

Battery Ping!......


2 posted on 10/03/2007 12:44:33 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

BUMP


3 posted on 10/03/2007 1:00:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Red Badger; Pete-R-Bilt; glock rocks; B4Ranch
New Truck Battery...
4 posted on 10/03/2007 2:18:46 PM PDT by tubebender ( FReepers Dog Bo ate my Tag Line Again!)
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To: tubebender

Already emailed Peter T


5 posted on 10/03/2007 2:22:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: Red Badger
Man, even running a 5,000 btu air conditioner off my batteries through an inverter is like cutting a hole in the side of the batteries — they don’t last long. IIRC it is around 70-80 amp drain.
6 posted on 10/03/2007 2:30:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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Go to the company website for technical data on their batteries......It’s awesome............


7 posted on 10/03/2007 2:35:00 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: steve86
The other thing that happens is that the voltage dips quickly and then the A/C compressor won’t start, even though the batteries still have a lot of stored energy.
8 posted on 10/03/2007 2:46:58 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Red Badger
Yeah, those 3D foam plates are promising. I have been able to deal with the sulfation aspect by keeping a desulfator on pretty much full time, and use AGM batteries in other places, but this company is bringing things together nicely.
9 posted on 10/03/2007 2:55:33 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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I have heard that a constant or frequent vibration can extend battery life in fixed applications. You might try putting the batteries on some surface that gets a lot of vibration (motor, etc.).........


10 posted on 10/03/2007 2:59:23 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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Do semi trucks typically have 6 volt, 12 volt, or 24 volt electrical systems?


11 posted on 10/03/2007 3:07:42 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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24 volt, IIRC.......I once blew up an 8-track tape player when I installed it in a friends truck, not knowing it was 24 volt..........


12 posted on 10/03/2007 3:09:29 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
I thought they were. I remember you used to be able to order heavy duty pickup trucks with optional 24 volt systems. Maybe you still can. I think they were mainly intended for camper use because I think campers have 24 volt electrical systems. I think those roof mounted A/C units are 24 volts. But those pickups used two 12 volt batteries and two alternators.

But I wasn’t completely sure because I’m pretty sure some farm equipment uses very large 6 volt batteries. I thought semis might use those same batteries.

My next question is...do semis use 12 or 24 volt batteries? And how many alternators do they have?

13 posted on 10/03/2007 3:17:53 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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Big rigs usually have (I’m talking from the 70’s) have big long 24 volt batteries. Essentially two 12’s in one case. I don’t know about the alternators. A friend of mine had a diesel pickup with two batteries, but they were 12’s. They need the extra power for turning over the diesel high compression engines.........


14 posted on 10/03/2007 3:30:39 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

I wonder if Firefy produces (or plans to produce) a deep-cycle marine (trolling motor) battery line. The foam electrode structure sounds ideal for trollling motor applications...


15 posted on 10/03/2007 7:10:45 PM PDT by TXnMA (Remember the Almo! Remember Goliad! REPEAT San Jacinto!!!)
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To: tubebender

interesting idea will research for later reply.

Thanks!


16 posted on 10/05/2007 10:13:59 AM PDT by Pete-R-Bilt
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