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Chelsea Gun Club Members Shoot Off on Giuliani
NY Sun ^ | October 4, 2007 | BENJAMIN SARLIN

Posted on 10/04/2007 7:35:33 PM PDT by neverdem

Opinions of presidential hopeful Rudolph Giuliani vary at Chelsea's West Side Rifle and Pistol Range: The staff and customers describe the former mayor's gun control journey as everything from "opportunistic" to "realistic."

Located in a concrete-walled basement on West 20th Street, the lively Manhattan oasis of gun culture welcomes customers with a doormat reading "Safety Starts Here" and a wall of press clippings. Once inside, they can take a training course or fire a .22-caliber rifle at one of 14 shooting lanes. The range, which doubles as a gun retailer, has been open for more than 35 years. Owner Bob Derrig, 67, says about a third of his clientele is law enforcement professionals and that the remainder is a diverse mix.

Mr. Derrig, a registered Republican who describes himself as a hard-line conservative, is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association and suspicious of Mr. Giuliani's evolution on gun control.

"He's just another politician jumping on the bandwagon, trying to quiet down the NRA before the election," Mr. Derrig said. "They have no morals as long as they get someone to vote for them. It's just disgusting."

Speaking to the NRA last month, Mr. Giuliani said he now opposed new restrictions on guns, seeing the right to bear arms as "just as important a part of the Constitution as the right to free speech." Distancing himself from some of his most prominent policies as mayor, Mr. Giuliani said an ongoing lawsuit the city brought against gun manufacturers in 2000 "has taken several turns and several twists that I don't agree with."

The speech provoked the ire of Mayor Bloomberg, who said the suit "has not changed at all." Mr. Bloomberg is also lobbying against the Tiahrt Amendments, a series of federal laws that restricts local access to federal gun...

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FWIW, Chelsea is the name of the neighborhood. The West Side Rifle and Pistol Range is found at 20 West 20th Street between Fifth and Sixth Avenues.

At least you know how Bloomberg really feels.

1 posted on 10/04/2007 7:35:35 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Once inside, they can take a training course or fire a .22-caliber rifle at one of 14 shooting lanes.

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The former mayor did have some fans among the range's customers, who made conversation over the booming gunfire in the next room

"Booming" .22 caliber! LOL!

2 posted on 10/04/2007 7:42:56 PM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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"Booming" .22 caliber! LOL!

The booming is from handguns that are not twenty two.

3 posted on 10/04/2007 7:55:06 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

The article made it sound like that was all you could shoot there.


4 posted on 10/04/2007 7:57:36 PM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: neverdem
“seeing the right to bear arms as “just as important a part of the Constitution as the right to free speech.””

And during that speech he quoted from the 4th amendment, not the 2nd, and was interrupted during the gaffe by a cell call from his “wife”. Saved the day but we should not forget that.

Anyone who meets him on the campaign trail should invite him to a CMP match and hand him a black rifle to use. While tape is rolling.

5 posted on 10/04/2007 7:59:34 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: neverdem

“they can take a training course or fire a .22-caliber rifle “

Let’s hope that some training happens before the noob heads to the range with a .22.


6 posted on 10/04/2007 8:01:50 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
If any of you folks are like me and want to switch party to vote in the next NY GOP Primary, then you have about a week to make the change.

To Change Your Party Affiliation
You can change your party affiliation by obtaining a Voter Registration Form, indicating the change and sending it to the Board of Elections. We will process the information and send you a new voter card reflecting the change in party. You cannot CHANGE your enrollment and vote in the NEW PARTY of your choice in the same year. Please Note: a change of enrollment will go into affect one week following the General Election. The last day to change your enrollment is the same as the last day to register for the General Election (25 days prior to the date of the General Election).

7 posted on 10/04/2007 8:02:04 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

Well golly gee, if some guys down at the rage like Mr. Rudy, then there is no way he could be a gun grabbing pinko. =D


8 posted on 10/04/2007 8:10:31 PM PDT by chaos_5
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To: neverdem

If Rudy gets the nomination, the Dems, Gays, Transvestites, 2nd Amendment Haters and baby killers are going to go crazy trying to decide which Liberal for whom to vote; Rudy or Hillary.


9 posted on 10/04/2007 8:46:41 PM PDT by no dems (Don't hate me and call me names because you can't reply to my posts intelligently.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 10/04/2007 9:33:26 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

I think I might visit that guy’s establishment.


11 posted on 10/05/2007 6:52:25 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: neverdem

Never, would you have to be a resident of NY just to go in and shoot for a little while? I know you have to be a resident of the state you’re purchasing a firearm in.


12 posted on 10/05/2007 6:58:28 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: DBrow
Anyone who meets him on the campaign trail should invite him to a CMP match and hand him a black rifle to use. While tape is rolling.

He'd probably start sobbing.

But, hey, he's not as afraid of a dress as Hitlery! That's something anyway.
13 posted on 10/05/2007 6:58:44 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Hazcat
"Booming" .22 caliber! LOL!

never heard the report of a .220 swift or a .22-250 have ya?
14 posted on 10/05/2007 7:35:31 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: no dems

and just imagine if bloomy joins as IND.
subway series from hell.


15 posted on 10/05/2007 7:37:19 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: absolootezer0
never heard the report of a .220 swift or a .22-250 have ya?

Yes, actually I have as I am a range officer at my gun club and quite knowledgeable on firearms. Which is why I made the comment. Any reasonable person with firearms knowledge would assume that when it is stated as ".22 caliber rifle" that the person was referring to a .22LR round.

16 posted on 10/05/2007 7:59:18 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: Hazcat

oh.. i remember you.. :)

did you ever get a chance to try out the long range wheel gunnin’ with your .45?


17 posted on 10/05/2007 8:05:45 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: absolootezer0

I’m shooting about 3 inch groups at 25 yards and I keep inside the 8 inch black at 50. Still working on it. :)


18 posted on 10/05/2007 8:40:46 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: neverdem
"He's just another politician jumping on the bandwagon, trying to quiet down the NRA before the election," Mr. Derrig said. "They have no morals as long as they get someone to vote for them. It's just disgusting."

Someone there REALLY understands Rudy...
19 posted on 10/05/2007 9:06:58 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: wastedyears

“Never, would you have to be a resident of NY just to go in and shoot for a little while?”

I don’t think so, but I can’t tell you about now. It’s been a while since I went there. IIRC, I was able to go there when I was a teenage minor about four decades ago, but I had to just about beg my mother and older sister into going there. My sister drove. We lived in Inwood, the northernmost neighborhood in Manhattan, about 10 miles away.

Two of my closest friends were members there. One still is, and he offered an invitation for a future Friday night. I wondered if he would be quoted for the story. He wasn’t.

The internet says you can call them at (212) 929-7287.


20 posted on 10/05/2007 11:56:51 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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