[SubGeniusX]

This thread has potential....

[Tax-chick]

I find it fascinating when political correctness runs into these dilemmas.

[SubGeniusX]

The teaching of evolution is becoming increasingly difficult in UK schools because of the rise of creationism, a leading scientist is warning. Head of science at London's Institute of Education Professor Michael Reiss says some teachers, fearful of entering the debate, avoid the subject totally.

This could leave pupils with gaps in their scientific knowledge, he says.

Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools.

PING!!!

[Southack]

"But Prof Reiss argues that there is an educational value in comparing creationist ideas with scientific theories like Darwin's theory of evolution because they demonstrate how science, unlike religious beliefs, can be tested."

Pretty tough to "test" Evolution since Darwinists refuse to publish any peer-reviewed criteria for falsification.

Theories that have no falsification criteria should be left out of the class.

[BenLurkin]

This could leave pupils with gaps in their scientific knowledge,

Missing evolution lessons will not prevent these kids from growing up to design spacecraft, build nuclear power plants or develop the cure to cancer.

They'll be no better or worse as scientists.

[CarrotAndStick]

"Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools."

[Elpasser]

It is delicious to watch the PC/pro-evolution fantasy establishment twist in the wind on this one...

[ClearCase_guy]

Science has been pretty much defined in such a way so that only physical aspects of the natural world qualify as science. No supernatural stuff. No transcendant stuff.

In addition, so far as I know, religion classes have pretty much disappeared from public schools, so that sort of forum, for supernatural or transcendant stuff, has been eliminated.

In this way, the material beliefs of the Evolutionists win by default.

I'd like government schools eliminated so that parents have a diversity of choices and can send their children to schools which have curriculums with which they agree. My second choice would be to bring back religion classes in schools so that the importance of transcendant values can be communicated to children. My third choice would be to change science classes so that the controversy (and yes: there is a controversy) can be openly discussed.

[tractorman]

Teenagers are proof that evolution is impossible.

[edcoil]

“Muslim families do not accept evolutionary theory compared with Christian families.”

I don’t accept this statement. Maybe C.of.E Christians but that church was started by Henry the Eight and not by God.

[beavus]

You can take the man out of the Middle Ages, but you can’t take the Middle Ages out of the man.

You can take the man out of the Middle East, but you can’t take the Middle East out of the man.

[Leg Olam]

Beliving in creationism is a matter of faith and easier than critical thinking. Not to say that having faith is easy. Athiests have more faith in their disbelief than most religious folk have in their beliefs and work hard at maintaining it. The theory of ‘intelligent design’ holds attraction for those of us that accept some of Darwins ideas but admit that their are things larger than ourselves. For myself the concept of God is manifested to me every day that I wake up but I wouldn’t even begin to say that I understand much of it. I just accept it and try to live a good life.

[Hackle]

Just curious, how does one go about testing the idea of incremental random change over millions of years?

[gracesdad]

I’m sure the creationists on FR will be appalled to find they have something in common with fundamentalist Muslims.

[SubGeniusX]

The teaching of evolution is becoming increasingly difficult in UK schools because of the rise of creationism, a leading scientist is warning. Head of science at London's Institute of Education Professor Michael Reiss says some teachers, fearful of entering the debate, avoid the subject totally.
This could leave pupils with gaps in their scientific knowledge, he says.

Prof Reiss says the rise of creationism is partly down to the large increase in Muslim pupils in UK schools.

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Amazing how much they bow to the Muslims.

[G Larry]

Guilt by association?

Seems like they’d like to equate creationism with Muslim theology, so they can discredit creationism.

[elpadre]

It seems to me that a teacher has the responsibility to teach, not just the prevalent view, or required information, but also all other possible, contrary views as well.

The preponderance of evidence wins.

Isn’t that what scientific inquiry is all about?

[britemp]

You’d hardly believe by reading the article that out of every 100 pupils in UK schools, less than three are muslim.

[sickoflibs]

Muslim Creationist Ping. See how science threatens us ALL???? LOL

[John Leland 1789]

One very good example of a dedicated Christian, a creationist, who proves that current technology development depends on current testing and application and is not hindered by rejecting evolution, is the late Robert G. LeTourneau. I cite here an excerpt from the LTI (LeTourneau Technologies) web site.

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“The LeTourneau name became synonymous with earthmoving worldwide. R. G. LeTourneau was largely responsible for the invention and development of many types of earthmoving machines that are in wide use today. He designed and built machines using technology that was years, and sometimes decades, ahead of his time, and became recognized worldwide as a leader in the development and manufacture of heavy equipment. The use of rubber tires in earthmoving; numerous improvements relating to scrapers; the development of low pressure heavy-duty rubber tires; the two-wheeled tractor unit (Tournapull); electric wheel drive, and mobile offshore drilling platforms, are all attributed to R. G. LeTourneau’s ingenuity. During his lifetime, he held hundreds of patents on inventions relating to earthmoving equipment, manufacturing processes and machine tools. HIS FACTORIES SUPPLIED 70 PERCENT OF ALL HEAVY EARTHMOVING EQUIPMENT USED BY THE ALLIED ARMED FORCES DURING WORLD WAR II. [emphasis added] LeTourneau also pioneered numerous manufacturing processes and the development of specialized machine tools.

“LeTourneau was a firm believer in the effectiveness of practical instruction combined with classroom studies and, in 1946, he purchased an unused military hospital, accompanying land and buildings in Longview, Texas. There he established the LeTourneau Technical Institute to provide sound technical and mechanical training, traditional college courses, and TRAINING FOR MISSIONARY TECHNICIANS BASED ON THE PHILOSOPHY OF COMBINING WORK, EDUCATION AND CHRISTIAN TESTIMONY [emphasis added]. The LeTourneau Technical Institute became a college in its own right in 1961 and eventually gained university status to become LeTourneau University. LeTourneau University is still in operation today, offering liberal arts and engineering courses WITH A STRONG CHRISTIAN INFLUENCE [emphasis added].”

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A creationist provided 70 % of the heavy equipment that helped win WWII. Dangerous! s/

I’d like someone explain how Darwinianism would have improved LeTourneau’s technical genius, for example. It would not have!