[NYer]

Catholic Ping
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[mnehring]

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[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Some have theorized that the Jedi Purge was based in part on the insidious destruction of the Knights Templar on Friday 13. (along with Kristal Nacht and the World War 2 Holocaust).

[mnehring]

Prof Frale, study of the document shows that the knights were not heretics as had been believed for 700 years....... the document we have found absolves them".

If true, the Vatican should issue an official apology (albeit, the Templars were dissolved in 1307 (when they were massacred.) There are 13 thousand plus souls who deserve this symbolic apology. SMIB

[ConservativeMind]

Why did the Catholic church allow a falsehood to exist for 700 years?

[vetsvette]

The Vatican sure did themselves proud with their treatment of the Templars.

[joebuck]

The bottom line on the Knights is that the King of France decided he didn’t want to pay back all the money he had borrowed off them. So, with the tacit consent of the Vatican, he butchered a bunch of them in a sudden purge after torturing “confessions” out of them. DeMolay was buned on Fri. 13 which became the basis for the superstition of that day being bad luck. (it certainly was for the KT)

[Joe Boucher]

Soooo, who does the movie?
Jackson?
The guy that did the hobbit?

[ELS]

From the Vatican Information Service (N.B. This URL gets recycled, so it works for now, but ...):

VATICAN SECRET ARCHIVES: "PROCESSUS CONTRA TEMPLARIOS"

VATICAN CITY, OCT 4, 2007 (VIS) - On October 25 in the Vatican's Old Synod Hall, the presentation will take place of the "Processus contra Templarios," a book published by the Vatican Secret Archives on the subject of the Knights Templar, the medieval military-religious order founded in Jerusalem in 1118 and suppressed by Pope Clement V (1305-1314).

According to a communique made public yesterday afternoon, the new volume is "a previously unpublished and exclusive edition of the complete acts of the original hearing against the Knights Templar." The book, unique of its kind, will have a print run "rigorously limited to 799 copies" and contains the "faithful reproduction of the original parchments conserved in the Vatican Secret Archives."

The project, the communique concludes, "is part of the series of 'Exemplaria Praetiosa,' ... the most elaborate and important publication yet undertaken by the Pontifical Archives."

The new volume will be presented by Archbishop Raffaele Farina S.D.B., archivist and librarian of Holy Roman Church; Bishop Sergio Pagano, prefect of the Vatican Secret Archives, and experts such as the historian Franco Cardini and the archaeologist and author Valerio Massimo Manfredi." .../TEMPLARS/VATICAN SECRET ARCHIVESVIS 071004 (200)

[bert]

The vatican exterminated the Templars. The book will be whitewash.

[ReignOfError]

Keeping my eye on the woodwork to see what comes out of it ...

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

Jacques de Molay, Thou art avenged.

[Red Badger]

It was all over money. The Templars were the defacto bankers of the European royalty. When the King of France couldn’t pay back his loans, he decided to have them trumped up on heresy charges...............

[Cvengr]

Next week marks the 700th anniversary of the Infamous Friday the 13th purge. I wonder what occultic Masonic rituals will be in store for us all?????

[NYer]

Possible ping!

[rbosque]

An ancestor of mine was in the order although I don’t think he was caught up with its demise.

We need them again.

[sasportas]

Who has a dog in this fight? Freemasons for sure.

A story of this type will bring a flood of Freemasons to the fore. Especially, the Knights Templar Masons and the Order of DeMolay, after all their name is taken from the Demolay of this story.

The Roman Catholics and Freemasons have been crossways with each other for centuries over this.

No doubt, there will be many Masons posting on this claiming their hero has been vindicated. Trouble is, you’ll never know they are Masons. Most of them won’t identify themselves as such.

[Savage Beast]

"The official who found the paper says it exonerates the knights entirely."

This is hardly surprising.

The persecution and massacre of the Knights Templar is one of history's most disgraceful episodes. King Philip IV of France ("Philip the Fair") is one of history's more corrupt and indecent mass murderers, and Clement V, perhaps unwittingly, served as his de facto accomplice.

Jacques de Molay declared his innocence and the innocence of the Templars as he burned, and he promised that he would meet Philip before God.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

I’ll have to tell my friends and some of my family they don’t exist anymore

he he he

[Savage Beast]

Read Born in Blood by John J. Robinson. While researching the Peasants' Revolution in England, Robinson stumbled upon extensive evidence that the Knights Templar, under persecution by Clement V and Philip IV, went underground and remained so until the early 18th century, when they re-emerged as the Freemasons, that the Freemasons had no connection whatsoever with a Midieval trade guild or anything or the sort but used this as a cover for their true identity, viz. the Knights Templar, to avoid further persecution and annihilation.

If the Templars are in fact proven innocent and if the Freemasons can make a sufficiently sound case that they are in fact the Templars, Freemasons should consider appealing to the Vatican for the return of the property.