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GE to Ohio: Turn off your light-bulb factories
Salon.com ^ | October 5, 2007 | Andrew Leonard

Posted on 10/06/2007 7:49:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

Environmentalists often tout the theory that investing in forward-looking energy-efficient technologies is a smart way for U.S. companies to create domestic jobs and carve out a competitive niche in the global economy of the future. But it doesn't necessarily have to work out that way. On Thursday, General Electric, citing the fact that sales of incandescent bulbs are declining by about 10 percent a year, announced that it was closing seven lighting manufacturing facilities in North and South America.

Six of those plants are in Ohio. The vast majority of the compact fluorescent light bulbs that are replacing incandescents are manufactured in China. A union-led campaign launched in March argues that GE should invest in new lighting technologies in the United States, but GE claims that to manufacture CFLs in the U.S. would require adding 50 cents to the price of each bulb.

(At Screwthatbulb.org, a site created by the Communications Workers of America, the union claims that the European Commission banned Chinese-manufactured CFLs, but that assertion is not correct. There is a steep tariff on Chinese CFLs in the EU, but even so, two-thirds of the CFLs sold in Europe are made in China.)

A story in the Youngstown, Ohio, Vindicator covering the closing of two local plants serves as a minor elegy for every factory forced to close by the pressures of globalization.

GE said Thursday the Austintown Products Plant and Niles Glass Plant are to be shut down Nov. 1, 2008, with production shipped to foreign plants or outside suppliers....

The Austintown plant, which has 73 workers, is one of three plants that make filaments for incandescent bulbs. [A spokesman for GE] said production volumes for these bulbs are down, so the company now can fill all of its orders at the other plants, which are in Mexico and Hungary....

So, yet another paradox that may not bear too much pondering, if one wants to make it through the day. Replacing your incandescents with CFLs will cut your electricity bill, there's little doubt about that, but it will also contribute to job loss in Ohio, and the likely increase of industrial pollution in China.

-- Andrew Leonard


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: ge; lightbulbs; manufacturing
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To: durasell
To me there is very little difference between Chicoms and union thugs. The Chinese and Wallmart haven’t destroyed our manufacturing base the greed of the unions have. Everything they touch turn to $hit. Just look at our education system.
121 posted on 10/06/2007 11:18:48 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: 1rudeboy
Fluorescents are pretty cool. But for primary room lighing, I still prefer the old fashioned thomas edison variety. Nothing beats them for color, light output, and cost. Fluorescents give off an odd color. But the fact that they don’t get hot is pretty cool, I must admit.
122 posted on 10/06/2007 11:27:04 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Boundless
“The future of lighting is probably LED,
and CFLs will not be a factor by 2010 or so.

The trick will be disposing of your CFLs before
they are declared hazardous waste.”

Thanks. You nailed it.

123 posted on 10/06/2007 11:29:19 AM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: mamelukesabre

Fluorescents can be manufactured in color-corrected varieties. I’m not sure if that has trickled down to the compacts yet. In any case, make sure you have your finances in order before buying them. :)


124 posted on 10/06/2007 11:30:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

OK folks...

Can anyone in the class tell me why US Manufacturing has been destroyed???

it couldn’t be LIBERAL/DEMOCRAT Policies, could it???


125 posted on 10/06/2007 11:33:10 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: 1rudeboy

“to manufacture CFLs in the U.S. would require adding 50 cents to the price of each bulb.”

And that’s BEFORE you add in the huge costs of “Free” healthcare...


126 posted on 10/06/2007 11:33:51 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: mimaw

With or without unions, manufacturing would have moved overseas.


127 posted on 10/06/2007 11:34:04 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: tcrlaf
umm . . . free trade? /paleo
128 posted on 10/06/2007 11:35:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Will88; 1rudeboy
There are no regulations making incandescent bulbs illegal.

• SB437 expands some renewable energy programs and allows more credits for consumers who produce their own power; and AB178 bans the sale of incandescent light bulbs in Nevada starting in 2012.

Almost 200 new Nevada laws take effect today

Congressional legislation introduced in March even proposes a lighting standard, beginning in 2012, that current incandescent bulbs would not meet.

New fluorescents have a dark side

Another, AB 722, would have made it illegal to sell incandescent light bulbs, causing another national stir. That bill never made it out of the Assembly.

Hopes for major achievement dashed as California legislature wraps up

ENERGY-SAPPING incandescent light bulbs will be banned within three years as the federal Government attempts to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 800,000 tonnes a year.

Incandescent bulbs given the flick

Ontario will ban the sale of inefficient incandescent light bulbs by 2012, a move that follows in the footsteps of Australia, the province said Wednesday.

Ontario turns out the lights on inefficient bulbs

Manufacturers and environmentalists are hammering out a nationwide energy-saving lighting standard that, if enacted by Congress, would effectively phase out the common household light bulb in about 10 years. That in turn could produce major cuts in the nation's electricity costs and greenhouse-gas emissions.

The new standard is expected to compel a huge shift by American consumers and businesses away from incandescent bulbs to more efficient -- but also more expensive -- fluorescent models, by requiring more light per energy unit than is yielded by most incandescents in use. The winner, at least in the near term, likely would be the compact fluorescent light bulb, or CFL.

Whatever rule is proposed by the groups would likely be incorporated into energy legislation passed last week by the Senate Energy Committee that the full chamber is set to debate by the end of the month, committee aides say.

Households Would Need New Bulbs To Meet Lighting-Efficiency Rule

129 posted on 10/06/2007 11:35:35 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: BearCub

“Not global warming (AFAIK) but mercury pollution.”

I’m going to laugh hystericly when the Mercury Product Liability lawsuits begin...

A Lawyer friend is already licking his chops over that one...


130 posted on 10/06/2007 11:35:42 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: tcrlaf

Can anyone in the class tell me why US Manufacturing has been destroyed???


Because it’s cheaper to pay manufacture something in a country where the average pay is under $2.00 an hour.


131 posted on 10/06/2007 11:36:00 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Why did you bother? Utter waste of time.


132 posted on 10/06/2007 11:39:58 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

LOL! You are right about that. Thanks, - bill.


133 posted on 10/06/2007 11:39:59 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: durasell

What has caused our automotive industry to be in the condition they are in today? Could it be gov. regulations and union thugs? When they move everything overseas lets blame those nasty Americans who work for companies without unions who can compete for not using all their disposable income buying the union label.


134 posted on 10/06/2007 11:40:45 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: durasell
Is that why those Japanese auto plants are springing-up all over like mushrooms?
135 posted on 10/06/2007 11:42:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Will88

“I don’t mind paying 50 cents extra per bulb to avoid having to buy Chinese and to patronize American workers instead, I DO have a problem with part of that 50 cents going to the coffers of some anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-human labor union.”

Don’t worry...
These bulbs will NEVER be made enmass in the United States.
The potential libility is just too great.

That they are being sold here, AT ALL, when breaking one should, by all rights, require a HAZMAT RESPONSE to clean up (IF you are following the current Enviro laws)


136 posted on 10/06/2007 11:42:54 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: 1rudeboy

I know. He was just so pitiful whining about my one liners.


137 posted on 10/06/2007 11:43:13 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Ignorance of the laws of economics is no excuse.)
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To: durasell

Wages are but a SMALL part of the equation...

Over-Taxation..
Over-Unionization..
Over-Regulation...
Inane Enviro Rules...
And UNLIMITED CIVIL LIABILTY add FAR more to costs than simple wages.

Could anyone tell the class which party pushes these job-killing policies?

Add in the Standardized Shipping Container, and you have recipe for disaster..


138 posted on 10/06/2007 11:50:30 AM PDT by tcrlaf (You can lead a Liberal to LOGIC, but you can't make it THINK)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I was a member of two unions in my youth and I was simply appalled at how they rationalized the outright destruction of the manufacturing base of America.

Here are two postulates:

America has always had a large industrial base.
That industrial base would still be here right now if there were no unions.

Pick at it, argue with semantical trivia, but that fact remains.

It would still be here.


139 posted on 10/06/2007 11:53:36 AM PDT by bill1952 (The 10 most important words for change: "If it is to be, it is up to me")
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To: 1rudeboy; JACKRUSSELL

I can not read under those new lights


140 posted on 10/06/2007 11:54:05 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing! Press Forward Mitt!)
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