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China Plunders Russian Military Technology
Strategy Page ^ | 10-09-07

Posted on 10/09/2007 4:40:59 AM PDT by Renfield

October 9, 2007: Russian military equipment manufacturers have concluded that China has illegally copied the Fregat M2EM naval radar, and many other high tech items. Despite growing pressure from manufacturers, the Russian government is still trying to decide what to do about it. The 12 ton, two decade old M2EM system is fitted to most recent Russian warships. The radar scans 360 degrees to a max range of 300 kilometers and max altitude of 100,000 feet. The Sovremenny class destroyers Russia sold to China contained Fregat M2EM, and with that, China proceeded to copy the technology and build its own version. Several other radar systems on the Sovremenny were also copied. These copied systems have shown up on the new Chinese Type 054A frigates, which entered service in 2005. It took the Russians a while to realize that the radar, which looked like the M2EM, was actually a functioning copy. China got its first Sovremenny in 1999, and took about four years to duplicate the M2EM. The Russians were surprised at how quickly the Chinese moved with this. At the same time, China was buying M2EM radars form their larger warships. Those sales have stopped. China denies any copying took place, and insists that any similarities between their radar and the M2EM are coincidental. That's the standard Chinese response. This sort of copying was learned from the Russians, back when the Soviet Union still existed. The Soviet copying was so blatant that, sometimes, design flaws or irregularities were also faithfully copied. China shows no signs of halting this widespread and blatant theft of technology.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; china; chinesemilitary; russianmilitary; technology; thieving
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1 posted on 10/09/2007 4:41:00 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

China plunders anything it can get its commie hands on.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 4:46:59 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: period end of story

Plunders?

America has *given* China a large portion of our once-great manufacturing base.

And we’re in the process of selling them the rest.


3 posted on 10/09/2007 4:50:05 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Renfield

After the recent performance of Russian technology in Syria, I’d say China can have it.


4 posted on 10/09/2007 4:51:44 AM PDT by sono (If you don't trust your HMO's making medical decisions, why would you trust Hillary Clinton?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“once-great?”


5 posted on 10/09/2007 4:54:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Renfield

I love it when some of the Commie Bastards try to out-Commie Bastard the other Commie Bastards.


6 posted on 10/09/2007 4:54:49 AM PDT by Humble Servant (Keep it simple - do what's right.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
America has *given* China a large portion of our once-great manufacturing base. And we’re in the process of selling them the rest.

O.K. It plunders, is given, and will be given or sold....everything it needs to conquer the world.

7 posted on 10/09/2007 4:55:04 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: Renfield

This is a surprise to who?


8 posted on 10/09/2007 4:55:16 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Yup.

We still grow fields and fields of good to eat stuff.

However:

Won’t be long, we will have forgotten entirely, how to make things.

Heck, I’m surprized we even build Wal*marts anymore.

Let’s just import them.


9 posted on 10/09/2007 4:57:18 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

That’s the spirit that settled the West!


10 posted on 10/09/2007 4:59:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Denying reality certainly didn’t.


11 posted on 10/09/2007 5:00:44 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Renfield
China Plunders Russian Military Technology

Hmmmm, sounds familiar. They did the same thing to us (with Bubba's help) while Clinton was First Felon.

12 posted on 10/09/2007 5:01:02 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: sono

Exactly my thoughts. China is well known for making crappy copies of crap, what the diff if it’s Russian military crap?


13 posted on 10/09/2007 5:02:39 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Renfield

Glad to see the concept of “Technology Whore” is not just limited to American industry.


14 posted on 10/09/2007 5:05:11 AM PDT by kidao35
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"once-great"
"denying reality"

You're slaying me.

15 posted on 10/09/2007 5:07:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Just call ‘em the way I see ‘em.

Been shopping recently?

See ANYTHING made in America, anymore?...

(anywhere?)


16 posted on 10/09/2007 5:09:09 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: period end of story
"China plunders anything it can get its commie hands on."


17 posted on 10/09/2007 5:11:40 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0 (Che was a racist.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I prefer to draw my conclusions from economic data, not the lawn & garden aisle at Wal-Mart.


18 posted on 10/09/2007 5:11:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Renfield
This is the same act as when the Russians copied, rivet for rivet, a B-29 that had to put down in Russia after a malfunction during a bombing mission in WWII.

The Russian bastards held our crew prisoner, too.

Not sure, but isn’t this system based on the same tech that Israel bitch slapped during the raid into Syria?

19 posted on 10/09/2007 5:13:01 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Very Proud Dad of LCpl Smoothguy242 USMC of 1/3 Marines, now on his way back the U.S.A.!!!)
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To: 1rudeboy

We do still make freedom here.

So we will, it seems, agree to disagree.

Though I do think: you’re in complete and total denial, about how bad things are getting.


20 posted on 10/09/2007 5:14:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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