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China Plunders Russian Military Technology
Strategy Page ^ | 10-09-07

Posted on 10/09/2007 4:40:59 AM PDT by Renfield

October 9, 2007: Russian military equipment manufacturers have concluded that China has illegally copied the Fregat M2EM naval radar, and many other high tech items. Despite growing pressure from manufacturers, the Russian government is still trying to decide what to do about it. The 12 ton, two decade old M2EM system is fitted to most recent Russian warships. The radar scans 360 degrees to a max range of 300 kilometers and max altitude of 100,000 feet. The Sovremenny class destroyers Russia sold to China contained Fregat M2EM, and with that, China proceeded to copy the technology and build its own version. Several other radar systems on the Sovremenny were also copied. These copied systems have shown up on the new Chinese Type 054A frigates, which entered service in 2005. It took the Russians a while to realize that the radar, which looked like the M2EM, was actually a functioning copy. China got its first Sovremenny in 1999, and took about four years to duplicate the M2EM. The Russians were surprised at how quickly the Chinese moved with this. At the same time, China was buying M2EM radars form their larger warships. Those sales have stopped. China denies any copying took place, and insists that any similarities between their radar and the M2EM are coincidental. That's the standard Chinese response. This sort of copying was learned from the Russians, back when the Soviet Union still existed. The Soviet copying was so blatant that, sometimes, design flaws or irregularities were also faithfully copied. China shows no signs of halting this widespread and blatant theft of technology.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; china; chinesemilitary; russianmilitary; technology; thieving
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To: Humble Servant
Well said!

And thanks for the laugh!

21 posted on 10/09/2007 5:27:22 AM PDT by libs_kma (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: period end of story
When it came to our stuff, the Clintons sold it to them and took a hefty kickback for themselves and the DNC.
22 posted on 10/09/2007 5:50:00 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: 1rudeboy
I prefer to draw my conclusions from economic data, not the lawn & garden aisle at Wal-Mart.

I prefer to take a healthy dose of reality with my government supplied statistics.

Are these the same data that has hamburger making as manufacturing?

23 posted on 10/09/2007 6:11:33 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Renfield

Considering how much American technology that the ChiComs have either stolen, bought, or otherwise acquired courtesy of Slick Clinton, the Russians have absolutely no reason to be surprised that the Red Chinese are stealing and reverse engineering their technology too. That’s what happens when you lie down with flea ridden dogs.


24 posted on 10/09/2007 6:13:51 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: period end of story

The Soviets were good a copying US technology. The Chinese are returning the favor. Of course, the Chinese with the help of Slick picked up much of our rocket and nuke technology.


25 posted on 10/09/2007 6:19:54 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: Last Dakotan
Are these the same data that has hamburger making as manufacturing?

That's what is so funny. I rely on data, and you make it up.

26 posted on 10/09/2007 7:28:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Renfield
The Chinese are the Borg. Microsoft looks like a rank amateur by comparison.

Borg Sphere

27 posted on 10/09/2007 7:30:50 AM PDT by TChris (Governments don't RAISE money; they TAKE it.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I rely on data, and you make it up.

You should know me better than that. Source

28 posted on 10/09/2007 8:51:29 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
How embarrassing for you. Since I know that your claim is false, it only took me ten seconds to find this at your source.

The report does not recommend that burger-flippers be counted alongside factory workers.

29 posted on 10/09/2007 8:55:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Ture, but the report asks "When a fast-food restaurant sells a hamburger, for example, is it providing a 'service' or is it combining inputs to 'manufacture' a product?"

Clearly in an attempt to cast as wide a net as possible in what is considered a manufacturing activity. Thus I question this particular set of statistics.

As an aside, do you generally accept everything the government tells you without question?

30 posted on 10/09/2007 9:48:15 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
No, in fact, I am well aware of this report . . . and even have a copy of it sitting at home. That's why I don't like to see it mischaracterized. The Kerry campaign tried to do it in '04.
31 posted on 10/09/2007 9:51:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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