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Leak severs link to al-Qaeda’s secrets
Washingtonpost.com via MSNBC.com ^ | Oct 8, 2007 | Joby Warrick

Posted on 10/09/2007 5:58:10 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression

A small private intelligence company that monitors Islamic terrorist groups obtained a new Osama bin Laden video ahead of its official release last month, and around 10 a.m. on Sept. 7, it notified the Bush administration of its secret acquisition. It gave two senior officials access on the condition that the officials not reveal they had it until the al-Qaeda release.

Within 20 minutes, a range of intelligence agencies had begun downloading it from the company's Web site. By midafternoon that day, the video and a transcript of its audio track had been leaked from within the Bush administration to cable television news and broadcast worldwide.

The founder of the company, the SITE Intelligence Group, says this premature disclosure tipped al-Qaeda to a security breach and destroyed a years-long surveillance operation that the company has used to intercept and pass along secret messages, videos and advance warnings of suicide bombings from the terrorist group's communications network.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Will they ever plug up any of those leaks?
1 posted on 10/09/2007 5:58:11 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: FreedomOfExpression

Note the emphasis ‘from within the Bush administration’. The operatives aligned against Bush within the CIA would be a more accurate guess, IMO. Think Mary McCarthy types.


2 posted on 10/09/2007 6:01:49 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: FreedomOfExpression
Democrats are worried - they may start an investigation...
3 posted on 10/09/2007 6:02:49 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: SueRae

I wonder if is was the same people who leaked the fact that the BIS might have spoted Mohammed Atta and Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani meeting in Prague.


4 posted on 10/09/2007 6:04:11 AM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

It goes without saying that whoever did this ought to be found, tried, and convicted of sedition.


5 posted on 10/09/2007 6:04:41 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
"Will they ever plug up any of those leaks?"

Not until they start sending the leakers to prison for 20 years.

6 posted on 10/09/2007 6:08:19 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Fairview

The FBI should have already been brought in to investigate.


7 posted on 10/09/2007 6:09:14 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: FreedomOfExpression

Leakers within the government who destroy vital intelligence channels should be dealt with harshly. They are traitors and should be tried and executed.


8 posted on 10/09/2007 6:09:57 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: FreedomOfExpression
I do not know of one case of someone being charged and tried for leaking secret information during the 7 yrs of this administration.

I may be wrong, but I'm drawing a blank.

9 posted on 10/09/2007 6:10:22 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Fairview

Nothing will be done. Bush has a perfect record of not prosecuting a single traitor to our country. The leaks will go on because the leakers/traitors know nothing will happen to them. They are treated as heros by the MSM and will be shielded by the democrats in congress also. Odds are it’s a Clinton hold over at the State Dept. or CIA.


10 posted on 10/09/2007 6:10:35 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (Conservative 1st, republican sometime)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

“Will they ever plug up any of those leaks?”

Never. The Federal bureaucracy is overrun by leftists and they breed like the rats they are. Fire one and a dozen take his place.


11 posted on 10/09/2007 6:11:26 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: vox humana
See HERE
12 posted on 10/09/2007 6:11:42 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
Something does not make sense here. How did SITE obtain the information about the Bin Lade video on September 2007? Did they obtain from a terrorist websites that had the first version of it? If so I do not think that this is a major security breach what so ever because these websites exist mainly to spread terrorist propaganda and materials and to recruit terrorists, they are not meant to be as a communication tool for terrorist attacks.

Did SITE obtain the video from a private communication with someone in Al Qaeda or its media wing the Sahab institute? In this case it is a different story but I have great doubt that the SITE institute has such an access.

13 posted on 10/09/2007 6:13:26 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

Note to next Republican President: Clean house after taking office !!!!


14 posted on 10/09/2007 6:13:32 AM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: TexasCajun
No the only person who has been prosecuted in this administration was prosecuted for perhaps incompletely remembering part of a conversation he had had years earlier about a person of no importance at all. For that, you get financially ruined and face prison. For ruining a critical intelligence operation that may have saved the lives of thousands, there will be no consequence.
15 posted on 10/09/2007 6:16:38 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: Veeram
Not cleaning house was Jorge's biggest mistake from day #1.

Whoever is responsible for this debacle should be on a plane to GITMO in shackles.

16 posted on 10/09/2007 6:18:20 AM PDT by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: FreedomOfExpression

Not until they start taking security more seriously. I was assigned a couple of years ago at an agency that deals daily with extremely sensitive information. You can’t get into the building without a Top Secret/SCI clearance, have to swipe in and swipe out, and no cell phones or recordable media are allowed in the building. Problem was, the in/out checks of bags were cursory and nobody ever checked my pockets for a flash drive or other media storage device.

Colonel, USAFR


17 posted on 10/09/2007 6:19:13 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Bugs, Mr. Rico! Zillions of 'em!" - Robert Heinlein)
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To: jveritas

They had apparently hacked into the AQ intranet and were lurking.


18 posted on 10/09/2007 6:22:42 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: Fairview
It goes without saying that whoever did this ought to be found, tried, and convicted of sedition.

Well, unless it turns out that they are Bush Buddies.

</DISGUST>

19 posted on 10/09/2007 6:23:55 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: jveritas
From NRO:

The founder of the company, the SITE Intelligence Group, says this premature disclosure tipped al-Qaeda to a security breach and destroyed a years-long surveillance operation that the company has used to intercept and pass along secret messages, videos and advance warnings of suicide bombings from the terrorist group's communications network.

20 posted on 10/09/2007 6:25:34 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Agent Smith

“Not cleaning house was Jorge’s biggest mistake from day #1.”

Exactly ! So much for reaching out to the losing party in the name of bipartisanship. God Help us !!!!


21 posted on 10/09/2007 6:29:47 AM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

So we lose an intelligence asset to gain a reporters ‘admiration’ for a scumbag ‘within the administration’?

You just shake your head.....


22 posted on 10/09/2007 6:32:03 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: steve8714

Yep.

This is like leaking we broke the Japanese codes in WWII, or the Germans codes.

Where’s the outrage?


23 posted on 10/09/2007 6:33:45 AM PDT by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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To: steve8714

I doubt it but I can be wrong.


24 posted on 10/09/2007 6:36:31 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Deaf Smith
The FBI should have already been brought in to investigate.

I think they're all tied up with the Hsu Investigation. Oh, wait a minute. Never mind.

25 posted on 10/09/2007 6:38:53 AM PDT by Gritty (The quagmire isn't in Iraq but at home – Mark Steyn)
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To: tsmith130
communications network.

This is very vague it can be websites, forums which is not a big deal to see what is going on there or it can be private e-mails or private internet messages which someone who works for Al Qaeda or their "Sahab" media group. Again I have my doubt that SITE was able to have direct access to Al Qaeda or its Sahab.

26 posted on 10/09/2007 6:39:29 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
Bah! The White House judged that the humiliation value of releasing Al Qaeda's video before Al Qaeda did was worth more than any information to be gained from it.

As the article intimates, the intelligence analysts probably already had it (and probably would have sat on it until after its humiliation value had disappeared). But I bet they're enjoying watchine Al Qaeda scramble to recover.

27 posted on 10/09/2007 6:44:31 AM PDT by AZLiberty (President Fred -- I like the sound of it.)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

Just DAM!

... the leaks, that is.

This is REALLY bad. It will not be that easy to repair.


28 posted on 10/09/2007 6:45:42 AM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: jagusafr
Problem was, the in/out checks of bags were cursory and nobody ever checked my pockets for a flash drive or other media storage device.

Maybe they ought to make everyone and everything pass through a huge superconducting magnet that will erase ANY recordable magnetic media - except people with pacemakers, of course...

29 posted on 10/09/2007 6:48:38 AM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: AZLiberty

Cap’n Ed speculates that perhaps the information was intentionally leaked to disrupt AQ.


30 posted on 10/09/2007 6:55:03 AM PDT by bagman
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To: bagman
Cap’n Ed speculates that perhaps the information was intentionally leaked to disrupt AQ.

I was thinking the same thing. It's not like anyone at the CIA has any doubt as to what ABC or the NY Times will do with "secret" information. Hopefully, Al Qaeda is back to using carrier pigeons.

31 posted on 10/09/2007 7:02:13 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -Pogo)
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To: bagman

But why would you purposefully cause that well of information to dry up? Who knows what intel you could get from it next week, or next month?


32 posted on 10/09/2007 7:06:06 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: jveritas
Did SITE obtain the video from a private communication with someone in Al Qaeda or its media wing the Sahab institute?

I would guess SITE's email contained a URL which got a burst of hits after being forwarded by the White House recipients. Probably to a web site that only a few AQ insiders were supposed to know about.

Mahmoud (reviewing server logs): What is eop.gov? I see it all over!

Ahmed: Executive Office of Great Satan! Allah requires we must rehost immediately! And we must remind the brothers to be more careful.

33 posted on 10/09/2007 7:06:44 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: jveritas

I’m raising questions about this as well and it doesn’t pass the smell test.


34 posted on 10/09/2007 7:11:21 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: GraniteStateConservative
But why would you purposefully cause that well of information to dry up? Who knows what intel you could get from it next week, or next month?

Hypothetically, they could have learned that their source was about to dry up anyway, so doing communications damage was a good back-up plan. It's all speculation at this point, including the idea that this could have been a deliberate leak, or perhaps disinformation that will enhance the usability of the real intel assets.

Who knows - perhaps CIA has recruited Bin Laden's favorite goat as a humint source! ;-P

35 posted on 10/09/2007 7:12:37 AM PDT by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: Sooth2222

But observe how quickly the Administration was spat upon.


36 posted on 10/09/2007 7:13:16 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: GraniteStateConservative

As if there’s only ONE “well of information”?


37 posted on 10/09/2007 7:13:54 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: 2banana

> Democrats are worried - they may start an investigation...

This is actually a valid thing they SHOULD investigate, but I bet they won’t because it might out someone other than “the Bush administration”.

But let me be clear— whoever is responsible— Bush administration, Dim, CIA — should be strung up by his ‘nads and shot for treason.


38 posted on 10/09/2007 7:14:13 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
SITE is full of BS. If SITE’s “techniques” are so good, how is it that they haven’t traced the tapes to the cave Bin Laden is hiding in by now? My guess is there was a leak and it was done to break off all Al-Qaeda communications by demonstrating to them that there is a leak in their organization and make them play, Find The Leaker.
39 posted on 10/09/2007 7:15:29 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
"...had been leaked from within the Bush administration..."

Bull SH!T, it was leaked from within the CIA by someone NOT appointed by this administration. How much do you want to bet?

40 posted on 10/09/2007 7:23:01 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Fairview
I think there's less to this than meets the eye. This gal calls politicians to ingratiate herself rather than the various defense agencies and then wonders what happens when the politicians contact the agencies who in turn download the info? Then she runs straight to the WaPost?

I'm not ready to string anybody up until I've heard more...and from somewhere other than the Compost.

41 posted on 10/09/2007 7:23:36 AM PDT by paddles
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> As if there’s only ONE “well of information”?

One less is BAD. We need more info, a lot more. We’re in the fight of our lives, here, the very future of civilization hangs in the balance! Who triumphs: democracy or islamofascism? A poisoned well of information is a BIG DEAL, and tantamount to yanking weapons out of the hands of our soldiers. Anyone who steals weapons in a time of war is a traitor. I don’t care if it’s a Bushie, CIA, Dim, or Grampa Applecheeks from next door. Plain and simple. Don’t you agree?


42 posted on 10/09/2007 7:23:39 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: VictoryGal

Depends. And, since we don’t know the Big Picture (as if anyone truly does), I’m not going to get my undies in a bunch about it.


43 posted on 10/09/2007 7:26:13 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: SueRae
"The operatives aligned against Bush within the CIA would be a more accurate guess, IMO. Think Mary McCarthy types."

Rxactly. Nearly all the most damaging leaks, and ALL of the "thefts" of personal information on present and former members of the military has been perpetrated by "analysts".

Unfortunately, some posters will twist anything in order to bash Bush with it, even though it makes them look like the types who's knuckles drag on the floor. They're worse than Democrats because Democrats make no secret of being the enemy.

44 posted on 10/09/2007 7:28:25 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

“The founder of the company, the SITE Intelligence Group, says this premature disclosure tipped al-Qaeda to a security breach and destroyed a years-long surveillance operation that the company has used to intercept and pass along secret messages, videos and advance warnings of suicide bombings from the terrorist group’s communications network.”

What a waste since since the video was pretty much old worthless crap.

Sounds more just like he’s looking for media attention for his company.


45 posted on 10/09/2007 7:31:13 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: TexasCajun

“I do not know of one case of someone being charged and tried for leaking secret information during the 7 yrs of this administration.”

Libby was punished for not leaking information that wasn’t secret, though.


46 posted on 10/09/2007 7:32:16 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (The GOP is "Whig"ing out.)
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To: cake_crumb

Maybe the CIA did leak it because SITE has been ruining their work?


47 posted on 10/09/2007 7:34:38 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: robertpaulsen
Not until they start sending the leakers to prison for 20 years.
Not until they start sending the leakers to prison for 20 years re-establish public hangings.
48 posted on 10/09/2007 7:40:16 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: FreedomOfExpression
It gave two senior officials access on the condition that the officials not reveal they had it until the al-Qaeda release.

Within 20 minutes, a range of intelligence agencies had begun downloading it from the company's Web site. By midafternoon that day, the video and a transcript of its audio track had been leaked from within the Bush administration to cable television news and broadcast worldwide.

The cable news networks will protect the secrets of the Harry Potter franchise of books but screw anything that would protect this country when a Republican is serving his elected term of office.

And it was unlikely to be "Bush" appointees as much as it is the shadow government of Clintonistas who weren't run off when the administrations changed.

49 posted on 10/09/2007 7:47:59 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: tobyhill

Wait until the CIA shadows leak the names of the private citizens doing this research.


50 posted on 10/09/2007 7:48:49 AM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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