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ABC Turns Presumption of Innocence Upside Down in Boot-Camp Case: 'Enough Evidence to Acquit?'
New York Times/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:08:37 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

The principle that there is a presumption of innocence in favor of the accused is the undoubted law, axiomatic and elementary, and its enforcement lies at the foundation of the administration of our criminal law -- U.S. Supreme Court, Coffin v. United States [1895].
Was [there] enough evidence to find that they were not guilty? -- ABC News, Matter of Martin Lee Anderson [2007].
Forget that musty old 19th-century Supreme Court stuff. According to ABC, there's a new legal standard in criminal cases; at least those in which the MSM has a rooting interest. Henceforth, the presumption of innocence in such cases is abolished. There shall be a presumption of guilt, and the burden will be on the accused to produce enough to acquit himself.

View video here.

ABC's Kate Snow pronounced the new ruling in the course of interviewing the attorney and parents of Martin Lee Anderson, the 14-year old African-American boy whose death led to the indictment of employees of the Florida boot camp where he died. All the defendants were acquitted yesterday, but that wasn't good enough for Snow.
KATE SNOW: Gina [Jones, Martin Lee Anderson's mother], this was an all-white jury. Do you think if the make-up of the jury had been different, that you would be talking about a different verdict this morning?

GINA JONES: Maybe, yes.

SNOW: Maybe, but you're not sure.

JONES: Yes.

SNOW: Do you think there was enough evidence to find that they were not guilty?
JONES: No.
Interestingly, while the oh-so-sophisticated Snow apparently doesn't grasp the rudiments of our justice system, the boy's father did. His immediately following response clearly reflected his recognition that the burden of proof lay on the prosecution.
ROBERT ANDERSON: There was enough evidence [to convict]. It was right there in black and white. I mean, what else did you need, a rocket scientist to figure it out? All the evidence in the world, and they still came back with this not-guilty crap.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abc; abcnews; bootcampcase; katesnow; liberalmedia; presumptioninnocence
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1 posted on 10/13/2007 6:08:43 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

ABC turns presumption of innocence upside down. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 10/13/2007 6:09:14 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

They must be using Toobin for legal consultation.

I have yet to see ANY law based story reported correctly.


3 posted on 10/13/2007 6:11:15 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Good ol' liberals. Conservatives are guilty until proven innocent. So you know how they think when there's someone they don't like who they want to get.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

4 posted on 10/13/2007 6:12:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ever since the OJ trial, at least, the Media (FNC - with their gaggle of female ex-prosecutors who, apparently, either never heard of ‘due process’, or, at best dismiss it as an irrelevancy, - being the worst offender) has abandoned any pretense of ‘Presumption of Innocence’.....

The media ‘howling pack’ offends, and frightens, me....


5 posted on 10/13/2007 6:15:58 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Uncle Ike
Think Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. GUILTY!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 10/13/2007 6:17:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: arbooz

This also reminds me of President Brodhead of Duke (an educated man, a university president, to boot), saying that he hoped for a trial in which the accused Duke lacrosse players would have a chance to ‘prove their innocence’.

I guess an accusation these days is enough for guilt; and you’d better be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you didn’t commit the crime, otherwise, you’re toast.


8 posted on 10/13/2007 6:20:54 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

 

 

9 posted on 10/13/2007 6:23:29 AM PDT by Fintan (I'd be willing to bet 9 out of 10 people in this country have no idea we have a Constitution.)
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To: CondorFlight
NO! You're not entitled to the benefit of the doubt if you're convicted already in the media. Why have a jury trial? Every one knows the truth even before it gets to be heard in court. The Lacrosse players were convicted and the media has decided Rush and Ann don't have the right to explain what their comments mean to the country. Its goes around destroying its enemies' lives and their reputations. The pen is mightier than the sword.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 10/13/2007 6:24:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

” Think Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. GUILTY! “

Martha Stewart/Scooter Libby/Michael Jackson/OJ/any number of ‘suspects’ in the Aruba case/that Atlanta security guard/the anthrax scientist (names are escaping me at the moment, but you catch my drift, I hope) -— the list of victims of media lynch parties is endless...


11 posted on 10/13/2007 6:30:16 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: CondorFlight

Yeah, they have it upside down...but if you can watch the FULL video..and find these officers had no part in this boys death....then feel free to send your own kids to places like this.

Here’s the full video....the one they had to get a court to make the sheriff give over...

http://www.nospank.net/7163793.200k.wmv

The site is some lefty site I’m preety sure....but I never saw it posted HERE.

spare 8 minutes.....watch the vid...

BTW..the state...aka Jeb Bush allready settled for millions...

This isnt the end of this for sure....


12 posted on 10/13/2007 6:30:28 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Check out this “unbiased” headline. (end/sarcasm)

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/10/13/Columns/Boot_camp_trial_verdi.shtml


13 posted on 10/13/2007 6:31:05 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Morons.
I suspect this was not deliberate. These people are biased, but their bias is exceeded only by their gross ignorance.


14 posted on 10/13/2007 6:33:26 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Crim

Sorry, Jeb didn’t settle, Charlie Crist did.

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/03/28/State/Family_gets_24M_in_bo.shtml


15 posted on 10/13/2007 6:34:07 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

and whom does charlie work for?


16 posted on 10/13/2007 6:35:58 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Crim

I’m a resident of the area and I must say we are all relieved that the boot camp employees were found not guilty. The kid died of ammonia inhalation due to his sickle cell disease. The boot camps aren’t pretty and there is much debate on the effectiveness, but I don’t believe the kid was murdered.


18 posted on 10/13/2007 6:37:20 AM PDT by The Ox
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for the post, I have nothing to contribute except to say that I believe the court decision is correct and the news media has failed it’s listeners once again.


19 posted on 10/13/2007 6:38:36 AM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: ChildOfThe60s

did they deliberalty kill the kid?....er....duh.....no

did they inadvertanlty cause his death?

watch the vid and decide...

negligent homicide?....you bet...

if those guys didnt have badges...they would have been guilty.

we’re all equal....cops are just a little more equal..


20 posted on 10/13/2007 6:38:41 AM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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