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It's Wrong for the Right to be Rudyphobic
National Review Online ^ | October 12, 2007 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 10/15/2007 4:29:47 AM PDT by StatenIsland

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To: DocH

If Rudy is nominated I’ll vote for him. He is a social moderate and a strong fiscal conservative and is solid on defense and foreign policy. His position on immigration has been excellent in the aftermath of 9-11.

The current president (who I voted for twice)is strong on defense issues and the war, naive about Russia and the border, says conservative things about social issues but governs on the left, sticking the Federal Government’s nose into all manner of things it does not belong in, and is a disaster on fiscal matters and the expansion of government.

Rudy, in my judgement, would govern far more conservatively than has Bush, and is so preferable to Hillary that the hysteria on FR about him vs. Hillary is laughable.

I had hoped that Thompson would be a strong contender, but he seems to lack any energy to engage in Retail politics like are needed here in Iowa and his stump appearances lack specificity and and excitement.

I like Romney’s positions but personally the guy gives me th willies. He’s just so perfect-he never seems to sweat!

I’ll probably caucus for Huckabee, but I know he is not going to be nominated. If Rudy wins the primaries and is nominated, I’ll vote for him-and more enthusiastically than I voted for bush in 2004.


61 posted on 10/15/2007 7:02:23 AM PDT by bpop
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To: StatenIsland
“The most important ‘traditional value’ in this election is keeping the Clintons out of the White House,”

Anyone who believes this ought then to be working hard for some Republican candidate besides Rudy.

62 posted on 10/15/2007 7:06:41 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: StatenIsland
And for my conscience's sake, I could even decide that a Democrat presidency is a small price to pay to preserve my steadfast loyalty to my principles and beliefs.

NO!

Stop promoting liberals. Period.

63 posted on 10/15/2007 7:09:41 AM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: StatenIsland

If you don’t agree with the homo life style, you’re homophobic.
If you state your Christian beliefs, you’re anti-semitic.
If you don’t like uncontrolled illegal immigration, you’re a racist.
If you don’t like Giuliani for President, you’re Rudyphobic.

If you think for your self, you’re not a democrat.


64 posted on 10/15/2007 7:15:50 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: ikka
California Republicans rejected an actual conservative and chose Schwarzenegger instead. Do you think that worked out well for California, and for the California Republicans? Just asking.

If I hadn't read the thread I would have posted something very similar to what you wrote above. What you wrote is definitely worth repeating.

For those who want an example of how well Schwarzenegger is working out for California, checkout:

Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California
and
CA: Governor Signs SB 777 (New law will open female locker rooms to transgender men)

As I see it, those who support Rudy need to think long and hard about their support.

65 posted on 10/15/2007 7:28:01 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Calpernia

Mmmmmmm.........that pink spangled number of his with matching faux fur-trimmed wrap would do the trick, you think?


66 posted on 10/15/2007 7:31:12 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: StatenIsland

NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFE

Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life always.


67 posted on 10/15/2007 7:33:19 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: scripter

I rather let Hillary win than have Rudy as President. That will show everyone that I mean business. Wheres the knife? I need to cut my nose off! That will show everyone! (sarcasm)


68 posted on 10/15/2007 7:34:13 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (An American in Miami)
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To: Liz

I don’t know. It is really hard to top that high kicking dance skin number :P. He looked way too proud in that shot of him sitting in the outfit at the table of that event.


69 posted on 10/15/2007 7:38:05 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Back to the example I posted: Do you think Schwarzenegger is working out well for conservatives in California?


70 posted on 10/15/2007 7:38:16 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: MojoWire
Thus he just might push the REAL conservative agenda even harder just to prove he’s not a smooshy liberal. (Hey, I can dream, can’t I?)

The truth of the matter is he will push the same type of agenda that Hillary will if he is elected. He is a liberal in all but name, he will try to push strong gun control, national health care and all the other entitlement programs Hillary will push. The only hope we have if either one is elected is to get a strong CONSERVATIVE senate and house, notice I didn't say republican. We absolutely can't afford for either Rudy or Hillary to be elected POTUS.

71 posted on 10/15/2007 7:38:55 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Alberta's Child
I think Ronald McDonald is the only one who can defeat Hillary.

Hmmmmmm.......might take a runoff between MacD and Mortimer Snerd.


72 posted on 10/15/2007 7:43:04 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Calpernia

Yeah-—you got a point there.

Rooty’s high-kicking in tights is a definite winner.


73 posted on 10/15/2007 7:46:26 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: MojoWire

Like we say in the box,

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!


74 posted on 10/15/2007 7:49:20 AM PDT by RGRX
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To: StatenIsland

This country is still suffering the repercussions of the Clinton presidency, from the changes in healthcare to the from-the-bench legislation in the appellate courts to the exponential proliferation of once taboo sex practices among teens. What Hellary will bring to the table, if given the chance, will make all of that seem like “the good old days”, as her husband ruled by poll numbers, but she has socialist agendas that she will pursue vociferously. The fallout will likely never be overcome.

As for “defending our principles”, that is exactly the kind of thinking that got us Bill Clinton (voting for Ross Perot?), and Nancy Pelosi. It has not done one iota of good for the Republican party, and allowing the Hildebeast into the White House likewise will not do any good for the GOP or the USA.

The power that we have as a voting bloc is to vote “our” people in, and then bombard them with phone calls and emails when issues we care about are at stake. We’ve done it many times before, and when the congresscritters know that their constituents are watching and expecting certain things, they usually will comply. The answer is vigilance, not handing Satan the reins so we can feel morally superior. Its a tremendous price to pay just to be able to say “I told you so!”.


75 posted on 10/15/2007 7:54:44 AM PDT by VRWCer ("The Bible is the Rock on which this Republic rests." - President Andrew Jackson)
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To: angcat

Even more embarrasing though - Hellary as POTUS, and Bubba as “First Gentleman”. That’s just laughable (and sob-worthy).


76 posted on 10/15/2007 8:00:06 AM PDT by VRWCer ("The Bible is the Rock on which this Republic rests." - President Andrew Jackson)
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To: StatenIsland
The more I read from the replying SoCons who just cannot support someone like Rudy if he were to get the nomination, the more I want this Republican "big tent" knocked down. If Rudy is strong on economic freedoms, says he prefers a limited government, and says he prefers social issues to be legislated at the state levels, and many SoCons do not like him for these views, I want a realignment! Even if it means that Republicans stay in the political wilderness for a long time, I prefer that the party stay more pure toward its roots in federalism, limited government, and an embrace of capitalism. And if the Democrats wish to vie for the defecting SoCons (third parties do not last long without one of the major parties adopting the third party themes), the realigment will come more quickly and so might a revolution of thought for original guiding principles of liberty.

Two can play the child-psychology game and be just as serious doing so!

77 posted on 10/15/2007 8:03:37 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: Man50D

Rudy is wrong on abortion but Rudy is no socialist.


78 posted on 10/15/2007 8:09:11 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: angcat

Can you imagine Hillary’s first man and his cigars in the White House?


79 posted on 10/15/2007 8:10:48 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: MojoWire
"Perhaps, just perhaps, he will be sooo aware of the right’s distrust and resentment of him that he will go overboard and support (even more than a REAL conservative) all conservative initiatives."

You're kidding right?

The one thing that his supporters brag about is his stubbornness and toughness.

Do you really believe once he is at the top of the heap he will have any incentive to "change his stripes"?
80 posted on 10/15/2007 8:15:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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