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Fox News Live Thread: Candidates to Sell Conservative Credentials at Republican Debate
Fox News ^ | 10-21-2007

Posted on 10/21/2007 2:19:55 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Edited on 10/21/2007 3:12:06 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
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To: longtermmemmory
"Do you have any real world experience in these cases or just hyperbole. Clearly you don’t know the procedures required into developing a medical malpractice case."

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My experience is mostly in a life long ago (well....25 years ago or so) as a paralegal - primarily involving product liability cases. Objectively speaking (I just worked there as a low-paid employee so I had no real vested interest), about 25% of the claims I saw had even a scent of legitimacy.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that about half of the cases were utter jokes. I mean stuff like suing a company in a suit involving a home fire when its product wasn't even involved, just because the product happened to be located in the house, and, well, maybe they'll find out something later. Companies have to spend time and money defending themselves against this kind of nonsense and it's ridiculous.

Then there was the case of a perpetually drunk, perpetually absent employee who was terminated after being warned/suspended/counseled numerous times. He killed himself after he was fired, and his loser relatives had the gall to sue the company that employed him for "wrongful death." The company actually settled (to my disgust) because it was a plant in a small town and they didn't want the bad publicity. Absolutely sickening.

Then there's the "Fybromyalgia" scam. A complete crock of a non-illness. Basically, whenever somebody claims to be hurting and they can't figure out why, they call it "Fybromyalgia." Lots of doctors don't even believe it's a real thing, much less something that can be induced by trauma. Yet every year, people sue for accident-induced "fybromyalgia" and win. There are doctors who basically make their living giving depositions in support of these trauma-induced "fybromalgia" claims.

The whole system is a joke. We need loser-pays. I noticed you skated around that. I could accept all the BS suits, if the people that brought them had to pay court costs when they lose. You with me on that?

Hank

1,301 posted on 10/21/2007 10:14:58 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: My Favorite Headache; All

The debate was a disaster with most of the top tier appearing childish and even Duncan Hunter, usually second best in debating, overreaching. The debate also amounted to free publicity to Hillary, something we should thank all candidates for dearly. The name of Democratic opponents shouldn’t be mentioned and I’d be surprised if they make a similar mistake, focusing on one or some of ours.

The exception to the childish behavior of most of the top tier came in the form of Mike Huckabee rightfully calling tonight’s fiasco a “demolition derby.” It’s no one that he connects best with the audience and with swing voters.


1,302 posted on 10/21/2007 10:15:05 PM PDT by Yomin Postelnik (Want a candidate who stands up for conservative principles instead of apologizing? MikeHuckabee.com)
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To: ari-freedom
Ron Paul’s followers are spamming the voting on FOX News channel... LOL

34% now and in his dreams could never get more than 3% on his best day of the Republican vote.

He is great to laugh at though.
Love it!

1,303 posted on 10/21/2007 10:15:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Only thing I remember about 1991 is going to elementary school and playing on the play ground. I have to do some more research on the Fair Tax and other tax systems and thanks for your answers. I am not going to give up on Duncan Hunter!!!!!!!!!!


1,304 posted on 10/21/2007 10:27:11 PM PDT by nomar (DH for president)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Since I actually have a law degree, I can tell you things have changed since you were here. That that is from viewing it much more than just 25 years.

It is sad that YOU had a bad experience but be grateful you never had to deal with cases of missing body parts or a life cut short because some doctor screwed up big time or had prior malpractice cases which should have had his license pulled but for a confidentiality agreement. Perhaps you never had nurses terrified about their jobs because they were threatended if they disclosed the doctor seemed to be drunk or worse when he came off the golf course for a delivery that went wrong.

You would also know arbitration has become a dominating force. In fact the Florida Bar President, was just commenting how the jury system in civil cases is fading to a memory due to contracts terms. But for a few select areas we already have loser pays in statute.

In civil rights cases we have defendant pays NO MATTER WHAT. (thats how the ACLU stays in lawyer fees)

We can duel anecdotes all day.

The bottom line here,

NO Giuliani, NO Problem.


1,305 posted on 10/21/2007 10:27:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rome2000

I was not home after I posted this and oddly enough I was the one who said Paul is certifiably insane.


1,306 posted on 10/21/2007 10:28:51 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: WildcatClan

That was me


1,307 posted on 10/21/2007 10:31:09 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: txflake

It is a Freeper..it was me ;)


1,308 posted on 10/21/2007 10:32:17 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: My Favorite Headache

That was the money quote from that room!

One thing I noticed....Loontz didn’t get the answer he wanted (only 3 supporting Rooty), what did he push to get more hands the second time he asked the question?


1,309 posted on 10/21/2007 10:32:39 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: TomGuy

That was me.


1,310 posted on 10/21/2007 10:33:28 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (No One Gets To Their Heaven Without A Fight)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Will you marry me? I’m your age. Live at the lake. Great cook, blonde, blue eyes, huge rack.


1,311 posted on 10/21/2007 10:36:46 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: STARWISE

you have to have conservative values but you also have to implement those values. You can’t just say “taxes are bad for the economy” and expect to convince anyone of your new tax plan unless you have actual experience in this economy and tax law. You can’t just say “Reagan good, Islam bad” and then have to ask your mommy when Putin doesn’t follow your scripted response.


1,312 posted on 10/21/2007 10:36:59 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

you can start a new religion because of that quote. that was so cool


1,313 posted on 10/21/2007 10:39:39 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Just playing.

I think.

1,314 posted on 10/21/2007 10:39:52 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: ari-freedom
And since Rudy is not an option for conservatives because of abortion and Romney’s pro-life record isn’t so impressive, we may see a lot more Huckabee because he is clearly pro-life.

It will make me despair for the Republican Party if this ends up as our nominating criteria.

We're electing a president, not a bishop.

1,315 posted on 10/21/2007 10:40:20 PM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: angkor

here we go again
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1914017/posts


1,316 posted on 10/21/2007 10:41:32 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: txflake

Somebody say “great cook?” Hi, my name’s Alan.


1,317 posted on 10/21/2007 10:43:25 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: ari-freedom

Implementation of those values would obviously be
a given, to most who read my post. I wasn’t making
a theoretical statement.


1,318 posted on 10/21/2007 10:47:48 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: My Favorite Headache

All stalking aside, hurry up and post your synopsis!


1,319 posted on 10/21/2007 10:48:04 PM PDT by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs)
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To: ari-freedom

Huckabee is too “pro-nanny politics” to get the nod, but too many voters continue to not know that about this as of yet. He wants a national ban on smoking, and it’s always an abuse of power to practice any kind of “nanny politics”! Mike Huckabee/Michael Bloomberg for the Pro-Nanny Political Party in ‘08!


1,320 posted on 10/21/2007 10:52:18 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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