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Bush Says He'll Veto Health Bill Again - Democrats May Force Vote On S-CHIP
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Posted on 10/25/2007 9:37:46 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Bush Says He'll Veto Health Bill Again Democrats May Force Vote On S-CHIP

POSTED: 12:11 pm EDT October 25, 2007 UPDATED: 12:32 pm EDT October 25, 2007 The White House says President George W. Bush will veto the House's revised effort to expand a children's health program if the legislation reaches his desk.

Having made modest changes to the State Children's Health Insurance Program bill vetoed by Bush last week, congressional Democrats plan to bring the issue to another vote Thursday.

The new vote comes despite the veto threat and Republicans' warnings that the changes may not attract more supporters.

House Democratic leaders and key Republicans supporting them said they believe they've altered the measure enough to pick up the GOP members they need to assemble a veto-proof majority, or two-thirds of the House.

Republican leaders, however, urged their colleagues to resist, saying the changes are too insignificant to justify abandoning Bush on a high-profile issue.

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1 posted on 10/25/2007 9:37:49 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

The RINOS in the Washington Liberal Echo Chamber will cave-in this time.


2 posted on 10/25/2007 9:40:08 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: rightinthemiddle

We have to call these DC elitist schmucks every day. What a nightmare! Time to get them all out of office at the first opportunity. Let them go back to the real world in disgrace. IMO, they’re worthless anti-American, anti-military sleaze.


3 posted on 10/25/2007 9:44:54 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: rightinthemiddle

Well since Bush already caved what do you expect? He offered $60k instead of $80k. When will he (and all Republicans) learn that the more he compromises the more they want?


4 posted on 10/25/2007 9:47:20 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Sub-Driver
By my count, this is veto threat #17.

Too bad George didn't even know what veto meant during his first 6 years.
5 posted on 10/25/2007 9:59:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ExTexasRedhead; sheana; Sub-Driver; rightinthemiddle

When will the world see that the Dems aren’t in this ‘for the children?’

This is about winning, beating Bush at anything at all, and nothing else. They don’t give a crap what for or who pays for it or for how long. That’s how we’re celebrating 70 years of welfare!


6 posted on 10/25/2007 10:00:36 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Sub-Driver

Notice the word “modest changes” means nothing substantive.


7 posted on 10/25/2007 10:05:04 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Froufrou

When will the world see that the Dems aren’t in this ‘for the children?’

This is about winning, beating Bush at anything at all, and nothing else. They don’t give a crap what for or who pays for it or for how long. That’s how we’re celebrating 70 years of welfare!
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YOU, my friend....have nailed it !


8 posted on 10/25/2007 10:14:43 AM PDT by cowdog77 (" Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: cowdog77

Thankyew, cowdog! I’m afraid my cynicism is showing a tad...

;o)


9 posted on 10/25/2007 10:16:13 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Sub-Driver

Psst...Here’s the truth to the notion of providing umbrella health insurance coverage to every child in America, it’s wasteful and fattens the wallets of the insurance carriers and HMO’s more than it benefits us tax payers. While it’s a noble endeavor, it’s not cost effective. At first blush, it would seem to be a grandly benovelent idea to require health insurance across the board for all children. You can hear the leftists’ outcries, can’t ya? “But, but, but...it’s for our babies! We are the wealthiest nation in the world...and we can’t provide healthcare for our children?...”

Problem is, it’s a gargantuanly expensive endeavour that does not provide the biggest bang for the bucks and makes no economical sense. Fact is, the overwhelming majority of kids do not get severely sick and have no need for expansive health insurance coverage. Sure they’ll get the routine common colds, snotty nose, cough, sore throat and the sniffles. But for the most part, the majority of kids are healthy and are not afflicted with serious illnesses. Therefore, mandating health insurance coverage across the board for every kid in America is wasteful and serves the health insurance industry more than it does the kids. As a physician, I would love nothing more than seeing a well insured kid for a routine viral snot nose and sniffle in my ER. Quick 5 minute exam...Easy Chaching! But as a responsible taxpayer I see it as nothing but wasteful drain on our collective wallets. Day after day on duty I see hoards of medicaid covered kids rushed to my ER, sometimes even by ambulance, for routine snot noses and sorethroats. Sadly less than 10% of all the kids I see in my ER have a true medical emergency. Medicaid abuse is sickeningly rampant.

Instead, for kids and healthy young adults, a catastrophic insurance policy makes more sense and is more cost effective, because these policies are much cheaper and are applicable in instances of unexpected calamity such as injuries after a motor vehicle accident, sudden illnesses requiring extensive/prolonged healthcare (meninigitis, appendicitis, new onset diabetes, broken bones ect...).


10 posted on 10/25/2007 10:16:17 AM PDT by dit_xi
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To: sheana

Exactly. The difference between a little bit of socialism and a little bit more socialism is ... nothing. You’ve already abdicated principles and have nothing but arbitrary numbers to use.

Sadly, in this case the Dims are at least true to their principles.


11 posted on 10/25/2007 10:16:53 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: cinives

So true!


12 posted on 10/25/2007 10:18:03 AM PDT by dit_xi
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To: dit_xi
Sadly less than 10% of all the kids I see in my ER have a true medical emergency. Medicaid abuse is sickeningly rampant.

This his how it is at Hazleton General Hospital. Kids that are running around and eating out of the snack machine are there to been seen by a Dr. in the emergency room. I spent 6 hours in the emergency room last month waiting for my 12 year old to be examined and have a cat scan. She hit her head on a overhang from the ceiling.

13 posted on 10/25/2007 10:19:31 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: Sub-Driver

I refuse to pay the health insurance for folks making 60 gran or more. No one paid for my kids when I was making half that. All of us taxpayers making less than
$60-$80,000 need to shout this from the rooftops.


14 posted on 10/25/2007 10:22:40 AM PDT by jackv (DEMOCRATS HATE BUSH MORE THAN THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY!!!)
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I refuse to pay the health insurance for folks making 60 gran or more. No one paid for my kids when I was making half that. All of us taxpayers making less than $60-$80,000 need to shout this from the rooftops.

As Rush pointed out yesterday, those Chinese dishwashers can't afford health insurance, but they can afford to donate thousands to Hillary Clintoon.

15 posted on 10/25/2007 10:33:47 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (dontvoteincumbent.com)
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To: Sub-Driver; Everybody

Another weak of liberals trying to convince the sheeple that Bush is against healthcare for the wee little chilruns...WHEN IN FACT HE AND EVERY GOP LAWMAKER ARE IN FAVOR OF SCHIP WITH A NICE EXPANSION.

Everyone should just copy and paste that on every liberal blog around the country to hysterical libs suffering from BDS.


16 posted on 10/25/2007 10:39:36 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: dit_xi

I’ve spent the last five years advocating exactly the points you mentioned. The issue that has the broadest possible support is preventing families from being wiped out financially by a serious illness. That also happens to be the cheapest one to solve by whatever means politicians want to use.

It’s funny to me that the left is constantly griping about administrative costs for health insurers, yet the programs they keep pushing involve massive numbers of forty dollar claims, which are the very thing that jacks up the administrative costs.

Protect against catastrophies, let people make their own deals for runny nose calls is the solution that has the widest possible support, so, obviously, it’ll be the solution that never gets implemented.


17 posted on 10/25/2007 11:21:16 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Sub-Driver
"Democrats May Force Vote On S-CHIP"


18 posted on 10/25/2007 12:16:22 PM PDT by avacado (Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Once again, President Bush is doing the right thing.


19 posted on 10/25/2007 12:17:39 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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