Posted on 10/31/2007 3:05:57 AM PDT by ShadowDancer
I wonder if she was driving and chatting on her cellphone, disconnected with traffic as well as everything else. And then she ended up at work as she continued to babble to her friend?
I wonder if anybody else has thought of this? They need to check her cell phone records.
Where did I justify it? Please tell me where. If I were to justify it, I would have to say that it was OKAY what she did. My issue was with YOU jumping on this person on the basis of NO facts about the person or the situation whatsoever. None. You are apparently the kind of person who gets a twisted kind of enjoyment out of this kind of thing. The Internet is full of your type.
You attempted to find an excuse for what she did.
No one is that stupid or too busy to forget their own child.
So, the fact is that a baby is dead and the mother is responsible for killing it.
Instead of rushing to the murderer's defense and trying to find an excuse for her, you should have been condemning her for what she is, a brutal vicious child killer.
I didn't have to, I know that no mother is going to forget their child all day long by accident.
Only someone trying to find an excuse for a murderer would think that nonsense.
Justify
5. Law. a. to show a satisfactory reason or excuse for something done.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Justify
I’m sure that she did forget that her child was in the car and that she did not intend the leave him. But that doesn’t excuse her. She was still negligent. I can’t begin to say what kind of punishment would be just. Perhaps the loss of her child is sufficient punishment in itself.
But we are certainly witnessing an increase in these kinds of incidents where babies die after being left in cars for several hours while their parents are at work. These are the direct consequence of having young mothers in the work force. This kind of thing didn’t happen 30 or 40 years ago when mothers stayed home with their children. Now it does. As long as our society encourages the mothers of young children to work outside the home, it will have to accept the fact that a few of these mothers will be too busy or distracted to remember where their children are.
my goodness you have a tendency to exaggerate.
In any given daycare group, per day, you could expect zero to five kids to be absent depending on what time of the year it is (flu season, holidays...etc)
Parents are usually requested to call the school when they know their child will be absent, so that takes care of most of the calls right there.
Of the 1 or 2 kids who may not call in, the center may have to use 1-3 mins to call and check.
The calls should be local calls.
I don’t see how this has anything to do with your cost-benefit analysis.
If a simple call can alert a parent to a roasting baby in a car, then I’m still all for it.
fine DonnaB - you can argue all you want about responsiblity, and no one is arguing with you.
But sometimes people make mistakes, and all I’m suggesting is voluntary course of action that can catch mistakes.
Personally - if I ran a daycare and I discovered this had happened to one of my families - I wouldn’t feel personally responsible, but I would regret not making that call.
Good for you.
nice talkin’ to ya.
“This is second such case I have read about in the last two month. What the hell is wrong with these people? The first one I read about was a principal. She was not even charged with a crime. If a man had done this, he would have been charged with murder, and rightly so. Both of this “mothers” should be punished.”
there seems to be a pattern with the cases that occurred over the past few months.
It seems the highly educated doctors - the principal - those cases were treated as tragic accients and no charges were brought.
In this case, and in the case of a poor black family, it was treated as a crime.
It appears if you belong to a lower social class, you are guilty of a crime.
My goodnes you have a tendency to not understand stuff.
I don’t see how this has anything to do with your cost-benefit analysis
Yes that's obvious.
“My goodnes you have a tendency to not understand stuff. “
I understand that by the age of 3 or 4, a child can get himself out of a carseat by himself, and get out of the car as well.
We are talking about infants and very young children who cannot help themselves in a deadly situation.
So your numbers are very inflated and you’ve inflated the amount of effort it would take to make a simple call.
Most parents call in themselves.
Not at all. not only is there the necessity for the call for the missing in your scenario, but there has to be some sort of roll call process checking the kids off against whose expected for the day to determine who is missing. You're not looking at the details. Enormous effort for totally miniscule benefit. Effort better spent on taking care of the kids rather than taking on the parents responsibilities.
“there has to be some sort of roll call process checking the kids off against whose expected for the day to determine who is missing”
They do this anyway.Everyday attendance is taken, so everyday they should know who is “missing” anyway.
“You’re not looking at the details. “
Wrong again.
“Enormous effort for totally miniscule benefit.”
enormous? exaggeration again.
“Effort better spent on taking care of the kids rather than taking on the parents responsibilities.”
Like I said to another poster.
If I was running a daycare and this happened to one of my families, I would not feel personally responsible, but I would regret not making that phone call.
“How many kids are dropped in daycare every day in the USA? 1 million 2 million 3 million? I have no idea, but let’s say 1% of the population so 3 million. Now let’s say it realistically takes a minute per child (oh and what happens if the phone is busy or not answered?) that’s 3 million minutes per day or 15 million minutes per week”
It appears to me that you are having those poor workers call every family every day.
Yes - that certainly would be too much.
Of course, that is not what I suggested at all.
That restaurant is about a half-mile from my house in Phoenix. She must have parked over by the defunct grocery store. How horrible this is!
The restaurant is on a corner next to a car wash and an empty old waterbed store. If the mom had to park far away from the restaurant (to leave room for the customers) it would be easy to park so that you couldn’t hear the baby crying. I’ve parked a hundred yards from that restaurant, and a couple of times we walked over from home to avoid the crowd. They have car shows there sometimes.
There is no one-reason-fits-all solution for this. Putting your purse or briefcase in the back seat is a wonderful idea, though. So is the idea of the daycare calling when the child is not left there. One or two calls a day might save a life, well worth the small bother.
“There is no one-reason-fits-all solution for this. Putting your purse or briefcase in the back seat is a wonderful idea, though. So is the idea of the daycare calling when the child is not left there. One or two calls a day might save a life, well worth the small bother”
I was wondering if anyone out there thought it was a good idea. Thanks!
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