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Toddler Dies After Hooters Mom Forgets Child in Hot Car
FoxNews.com ^ | October 31, 2007

Posted on 10/31/2007 3:05:57 AM PDT by ShadowDancer

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To: ShadowDancer

She needs to do prison time. All of these “forgetful” “parents” should be in prison. I’ve no sympathy. I have a child this age and can’t grasp how anyone who isn’t blind, deaf and heavily sedated could “forget” one in the car.


61 posted on 10/31/2007 6:26:16 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: RockinRight
She either works...and takes the kid to day care, or stays at home and goes on welfare. Which do you prefer?

Another false dichotomy (a popular form of "debate" around here) - as if those were the only two choices in her life. She chose to drop a kid she couldn't afford. She chose to work at Hooters which apparently doesn't have covered parking. She chose to use day care rather than other family to take care of the kid. She chose not to have a checklist of what to do in the morning. Etc.

All that aside, I feel slightly sorry for her and a hell of a lot sorrier for the kid. Moral of the story if you can't afford kids don't have 'em.

And yes the bear thing was one of the dumbest moves in the universe, but the idiot mother wasn't the one who suffered for it. What makes it stick in my mind is that my kid was about the same age at the time.

62 posted on 10/31/2007 6:27:27 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: Fairview

Kids weren’t stapped in car seats until the 70’s.


63 posted on 10/31/2007 6:27:49 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Save the 'poor mother' routine, she is a monster.

Woah, thank goodness you are perfect or your comment might be considered heartless.

64 posted on 10/31/2007 6:30:16 AM PDT by Rita Hayworth (Vote for a guy who had 399 House Bank overdrafts totaling $129,000? Yeah right!!)
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To: ShadowDancer

I’ve forgotten my car keys. I’ve forgotten where I sat my glasses. I once forgot my wife’s birthday.

I’ve never forgotten my DOG in the CAR. And I have had dogs in my life for almost five decades now.

Where the woman works has nothing to do with this story, and the headline writer should be ashamed.Gee, thank God she wasn’t driving a SUV huh?


65 posted on 10/31/2007 6:32:22 AM PDT by Badeye ('Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....")
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To: AppyPappy
Maybe not. I know someone who did it. If you have another child, you can’t really just check out.

I hope you are right. Very sad story.

jas3
66 posted on 10/31/2007 6:33:13 AM PDT by jas3
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To: Nervous Tick

While I have no dillusions that Attny’s use drugs and alcohol just like people of every other job profession out there, to blame every tragic accident that ever happens on them is incredibly stupid.

I have watched stone cold sober people pull out in front of busses, after they looked right at them and get T Boned... I’ve watched people with genius IQ’s not be able to figure out the fact they put in a battery backwards. I’ve seen sober intelligent people make incredible mistakes, some sadly with very tragic results.

Unfortunately we are all human, and as much as it makes us feel better when we hear about something like this to just blame it on drugs or alcohol or some other thing... the reality is not one of us is free from making a mistake.

In the case of the Lawyer, no, it wasn’t related to alcohol, each of the parents thought the other had the child... it was asleep in the carseat of one of the cars. The parent with the car thought the other parent had the child and had dropped it off... Came out from work at the end of the day to find the child dead.

Its tragic, but it does happen, and no, drugs or alcohol do not need to be involved for something like this to happen.


67 posted on 10/31/2007 6:34:03 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

In my world, forgetting a pet in a car is senseless though forgivable but allowing your own child to roast to death in your car is CRIMINAL. These jurisdictions that take a slap-on-the-wrist approach to these cases are part of the culture of death and on-going indifference to infanticide.


68 posted on 10/31/2007 6:35:03 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: from occupied ga
When are parents going to stop dropping kids off at the baby barn and take care of them?

In many cases, just as soon Uncle Sam allows dad to retain a reasonable amount of his income so mommy doesn't have to work.

Another ironic example of compassionate liberals helping "working families" by raising taxes - forcing mommy to work while the government can provide day care programs and mandatory preschool (all the better to get their hands on 'em while they're young).

This may have been a single parent, but the broader point is still valid.
69 posted on 10/31/2007 6:35:31 AM PDT by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: Skenderbej

We had one here that described a shooting. Said the armed man used a “high-powered shotgun rifle”.

I’d love to get one, whatever it is!


70 posted on 10/31/2007 6:36:41 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (FR Member ItsOurTimeNow: Declared Anathema by the Council of Trent)
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To: newzjunkey

Prison time? Wow... nothing like being overly judgemental..

When your heart fills with that moment of panic because your child got out of your sight for a split second because you were destracted..... I want you to remember your words here, you abject idiot. And yes, trust me, it will happen.


71 posted on 10/31/2007 6:37:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: from occupied ga

I did acknowledge there were other options for child care, you’re completely correct there.

However...you had to do the “woulda, coulda, shoulda” didn’t you.

The facts are:

She ALREADY HAS a kid. No amount of preaching in the world will change that now. The question is what does she do NOW. Yeah, she “shouldn’t have” but that can’t be undone.


72 posted on 10/31/2007 6:37:35 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: Rita Hayworth

Who does your tagline refer to?


73 posted on 10/31/2007 6:38:21 AM PDT by RockinRight (The Council on Illuminated Foreign Masons told me to watch you from my black helicopter.)
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To: ShadowDancer

Legalized infanticide.


74 posted on 10/31/2007 6:39:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
It wouldn't even come into her mind that she hadn't dropped the child off?

Why would it? Almost by definition, forgetting to do something is hard to remember.

75 posted on 10/31/2007 6:40:13 AM PDT by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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To: newzjunkey

Your’s is a point that is somewhat different from the point I made (albeit obviously related).

I was saying these people are not monsters (as some on this thread would seem to wish to portray them).

You are saying that the legal consequences of an act like this are nowhere near as severe as they should be.

It is of course possible that we both are correct.

I personally would want to know to what extent drugs or alcohol played a role - like our legal system does for driving while impaired - if this person was “parenting while impaired” (may or may not have been the case) I would tend to assign a higher degree of legal culpability.


76 posted on 10/31/2007 6:42:58 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Rita Hayworth
Rita, I sometimes drive around with a saddle in the back of my car because I'm going riding after work. I don't want to leave it in the car on a hot day because the high temperature in a car will dry out the leather and stitching, and it would cost $2K to replace it. So when I get to work I decide whether to take the saddle inside with me. I can't see the saddle and it certainly doesn't make a noise in the car; I'm often hassled, exasperated by traffic, and running a little late by the time I pull into the office parking lot. And I am by nature and by age a very stressed-out and forgetful person, with five thousand things to remember for myself and my family. Yet I've never forgotten that saddle and left it in the car on a hot day. I've never even forgotten for a few minutes and had to go back for it.

The saddle is just a saddle, an inanimate object that can be replaced with money. It's not important in the grand scheme of things; it's not even unique. It is certainly not a precious, irreplaceable child. But as forgetful as I am, I remember it. I absolutely do not understand how even the most harassed mother could forget her own child like that. Does she not think forty times a day about her child and what he is doing? I certainly think about my children all the time--whether in the middle of meetings, writing reports, answering the phone.

I am very far from being a perfect mother much less a perfect person. But if I can remember an inanimate object, it is not too much to expect a mother to remember not to leave her child to die.

77 posted on 10/31/2007 6:43:21 AM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Come on now...common sense isn't allowed on threads like this. You're suppose to rant on how stupid the mother is, how she was high on meth and crack, how alcohol was to blame, how greedy Hooter's is for now providing covered parking of their stupid, moronic employees and most important...how perfection would have prevented this tradegy.

We can be thankful that there are so many perfect people posting on this thread.

78 posted on 10/31/2007 6:44:24 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: RockinRight
Who does your tagline refer to?

Duncan Hunter.

79 posted on 10/31/2007 6:49:17 AM PDT by Rita Hayworth (Vote for a guy who had 399 House Bank overdrafts totaling $129,000? Yeah right!!)
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To: from occupied ga
Another false dichotomy (a popular form of "debate" around here) - as if those were the only two choices in her life. She chose to drop a kid she couldn't afford. She chose to work at Hooters which apparently doesn't have covered parking. She chose to use day care rather than other family to take care of the kid. She chose not to have a checklist of what to do in the morning. Etc. All that aside, I feel slightly sorry for her and a hell of a lot sorrier for the kid. Moral of the story if you can't afford kids don't have 'em.

Would your tune change if she was a newlywed who's husband was a marine who was in Iraq and suddenly their life dream of a stay at home mom and children was now that she was alone with a baby and had to work and was completely frazzled because she took a job that she hated and her husband was critically injured?

80 posted on 10/31/2007 6:52:16 AM PDT by Rita Hayworth (Vote for a guy who had 399 House Bank overdrafts totaling $129,000? Yeah right!!)
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