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Founders' Quotes - Washington on an Armed Citizenry
The Patriot Post ^ | 11/05/2007 | George Washington, others

Posted on 11/05/2007 4:56:47 AM PST by Loud Mime

“If we desire to insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.”
George Washington (fifth annual address to Congress, 13 December 1793)

“Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty”
Samuel Adams

“If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
Samuel Adams

Other – George Orwell

”Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other.”

”The quickest way to end a war is to lose it.”

”War is evil, but it is often the lesser evil.”

”There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them.”

”Enlightened people seldom, if ever, possess a sense of responsibility.”

”Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”

”But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”

All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome.”

”All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”

”As I write, highly civilized human beings are flying overhead, trying to kill me.”

”(Mankind) is not likely to salvage civilization unless he can evolve a system of good and evil which is independent of heaven and hell.”

”One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes a revolution in order to establish a dictatorship.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: foundingfathers; quotes
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1 posted on 11/05/2007 4:56:48 AM PST by Loud Mime
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To: Vision; sauropod; gondramB; Loud Mime; sneakers; toomanygrasshoppers; jasoncann; gr8eman; ...
PING!
2 posted on 11/05/2007 4:57:46 AM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Loud Mime

Some in our government should read these.

Thanks, I’ve bookmarked this.


3 posted on 11/05/2007 5:02:00 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Loud Mime
But... what in the world does all this have to do with hunting?







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4 posted on 11/05/2007 5:02:34 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Loud Mime
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

George Orwell
5 posted on 11/05/2007 5:03:34 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa

good quote!

While compiling Orwell’s quotes I realized that all the liberals I know had never served in the Military.


6 posted on 11/05/2007 5:08:41 AM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Loud Mime

My favorite George Washington quote because he was talking directly about my early ancestors............

“If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of Virginia, plant my flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the Scotch-Irish of that region, and make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who will never submit to British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a trigger.”

George Washington, at Valley Forge.


7 posted on 11/05/2007 5:17:51 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Loud Mime

Thanks for the ping, LM. I, too, am bookmarking this one!

sneakers


8 posted on 11/05/2007 5:22:38 AM PST by sneakers (This Pennsylvania gal supports DUNCAN HUNTER for President!)
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To: NavyCanDo

ping


9 posted on 11/05/2007 5:23:42 AM PST by Shimmer (J'essaierai de faire mieux la prochaine fois.)
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To: Loud Mime

-bfl-


10 posted on 11/05/2007 5:24:15 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Loud Mime
Below is from George Washington’s Farewell Address!

Warns against the party system.
“It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration....
agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one....
against another....
it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption...
thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.”

Stresses the importance of religion and morality.
“Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths,
which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?”

On stable public credit.
“...cherish public credit.
One method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible...
avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt....
it is essential that you...bear in mind, that towards the payments of debts there must be Revenue,
that to have Revenue there must be taxes;
that no taxes can be devised, which are not...inconvenient and unpleasant...”

Warns against permanent foreign alliances.
“It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world...”

11 posted on 11/05/2007 5:31:08 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Loud Mime

I’m gonna put some of those quotes from Orwell on a site I’m on, see what the teens have to say.

(mostly teens, few 20 and up)


12 posted on 11/05/2007 6:07:07 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: TLI

LOL Good one


13 posted on 11/05/2007 6:07:25 AM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world.

A permanent alliance suggests that principle doesn't matter, that if the other member turns to bad ways the alliance will not be severed. Any alliance should be based on doing the right thing, not surrendering or promoting evil.

I view political parties in the same way. Others stay with their party....right or wrong.

14 posted on 11/05/2007 6:38:36 AM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Loud Mime; raygun

“Here I encounter the most popular fallacy of our times. It is not considered sufficient that the law should be just; it must be philanthropic. Nor is it sufficient that the law should guarantee to every citizen the free and inoffensive use of his faculties for physical, intellectual, and moral self-improvement. Instead, it is demanded that the law should directly extend welfare, education, and morality throughout the nation.”

“This is the seductive lure of socialism. And I repeat again: These two uses of the law are in direct contradiction to each other. We must choose between them. A citizen cannot at the same time be free and not free.”

from...”The Seductive Lure of Socialism”, here...

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G1428

Thanks to FReeper raygun for the link.


15 posted on 11/05/2007 6:47:08 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Brilliant!


16 posted on 11/05/2007 7:19:37 AM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: wastedyears

Include post #15 with those quotes.

I’d be interested to see how they respond; please let me know?


17 posted on 11/05/2007 7:21:02 AM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Loud Mime
“If we desire to insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.”

George Washington was not alone when he shared this wise observation with the Congress and the Nation.

In pace, ut sapiens, aptarit idonea bello. "In peace, as a wise man, he should make suitable preparation for war." Horace

Qui desiderat pacem, preparet bellum. "Who desires peace should prepare for war." Vegetius De Rei Militari III

"Whatever enables us to go to war secures our peace" Thomas Jefferson

"To secure peace is to prepare for war." Carl von Clausewitz

"It is an unfortunate fact that we can secure peace only by preparing for war." John F. Kennedy

"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum." (If You Wish For Peace, Prepare For War)
If you doubt this or lack the power to accept it, or it offends your idea of the way things "ought" to be, even for a moment, you do not even deserve freedom and you are not worthy of peace.

18 posted on 11/05/2007 8:30:37 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

You always have great information!

I’ve got the Clausewitz book on my to-read pile; it’s seventh.

Is the last quote from Tacitus?


19 posted on 11/05/2007 9:03:04 AM PST by Loud Mime (Life was better when cigarette companies could advertise and lawyers could not)
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To: Loud Mime

”(Mankind) is not likely to salvage civilization unless he can evolve a system of good and evil which is independent of heaven and hell.”

Debatable, very debatable.

Will & Ariel Durant discussed this and mentioned that while it is possible for man to live a moral and ethical life without a belief in a higher power, that the vast majority were unable to so do.

True then, true now.

Actually, the American Republic, during its pre-New Deal period, was the best actualization of a secular society wherein each citizen related to his Creator as he so saw fit.

No goober in a black robe decided matters relating to religion.


20 posted on 11/05/2007 9:27:11 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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