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TWA 800 FOIA Suit Yields Smoking Gun
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | August 30, 2007 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 11/06/2007 9:21:21 AM PST by neverdem

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To: Non-Sequitur
Why not?

There made a lot of those planes. If there was indeed a defect then it's not beyond reason that there would have been more than one plane that had the same problem.

161 posted on 11/07/2007 4:52:22 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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To: isthisnickcool
There made a lot of those planes. If there was indeed a defect then it's not beyond reason that there would have been more than one plane that had the same problem.

They made a lot of 767s, too, but to my knowledge only one has been torn apart in mid-air when its thrust reversers deployed. They made a lot of DC-10s, but only one that I'm aware of had a its cargo hatch fail catastrophically or have an engine tear off. They made a lot of MD-11s but so far as I know only one was brought down by an electrical fire.

Civil aircraft are well designed, well tested, and generally carefully manufactured and maintained. When system failures occur, as the will with any manufactured product, they are rare and usually don't occur again because a solution is identified and a corrective action put in place. The fact that a one time failure could cause a fuel tank to explode under the right conditions doesn't surprise me much, and the fact that it hasn't happened again doesn't surprise me at all. It just means that recommended corrective action has been taken.

162 posted on 11/07/2007 5:29:38 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Uriah_lost
If you think I like talking about my airline, you should see me with a few drinks in me! It's embarrassing, really!

At least you take pride in your work. That is always good to see in people.
163 posted on 11/07/2007 6:23:12 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

MythBusters couldn’t reproduce the explosion for gasoline fuel tanks. The link that I gave you was for MythBusters shooting multiple bullets into filled and “empty” gas tanks.

They didn’t explode.

Moreover, kerosene fuel tanks are even less combustible. Orders of magnitude safer. Less volatile.

Civilian airliners burn kerosene. TWA 800 burned kerosene.

TWA 800 didn’t just self-detonate. Witnesses on the ground and at least one pilot in the air reported seeing a missile launched from the surface rise to impact TWA 800.

Now *that* impact could have exploded the center fuel tank.


164 posted on 11/07/2007 7:34:37 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The fact that a one time failure could cause a fuel tank to explode under the right conditions doesn't surprise me much, and the fact that it hasn't happened again doesn't surprise me at all. It just means that recommended corrective action has been taken.

It seems that some would dispute any assertion that it is a fact that it was a one time failure associated to a defect that caused the fuel tank to explode.

I guess the dog will continue to chase it's tail on this issue.

165 posted on 11/07/2007 7:58:24 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Judy Ruliani - Could our next president be a drag....queen?)
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To: Non-Sequitur
But that was 30 years ago.

Yep. It was memorable to me. At the time, I lived right across the highway from LAX and remember seeing a whole slew of DC-10s lined up, just parked week after week. Quite a sight, really.

166 posted on 11/07/2007 8:49:43 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: isthisnickcool
It seems that some would dispute any assertion that it is a fact that it was a one time failure associated to a defect that caused the fuel tank to explode.

I understand that. There are many who believe it was a missile of some type, though that flies in the face of a considerable amount of evidence. And of course there are always those who jump at the chance to blame anything on Clinton.

167 posted on 11/07/2007 8:50:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
What was your point then?

The gas tank theory was incredible from the get go. I thought the evidence of a surface to air missile was obvious. The question is who did it. Why would the U.S. do a training exercise in that airspace? The whole story made no sense.

168 posted on 11/07/2007 10:00:02 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem

Actually, an issue with the plane is the most plausible. If you’ll really do some research, you’ll see that the gas tank isn’t as incredible as you may believe. Warning, you can’t be lazy and just shoot from the hip if you want to learn it.


169 posted on 11/07/2007 4:39:16 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Uriah_lost
You do know that 800 took off in the slot originally designated for an EL AL flight....or is that not common knowledge?

Apparently not, I got flamed for mentioning it!

170 posted on 11/07/2007 5:31:30 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: Uriah_lost

Ping to #80


171 posted on 11/07/2007 5:34:26 PM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: pray4liberty

My memory of it(I was on duty TWA at the time) was that 800 was delayed because of equipment issues and when it finally left the gate, the procedure for a late departing flight is that it jumps to the head of the line. The scheduled departure was, in fact, an El-Al flight but 800 bumped the line and got clearence for that departure slot. If an attacker was selecting a target based on scheduled departure times, TWA 800 would have, to their knowledge, been the El-Al aircraft. I heard that here in STL within a day of the incident in a briefing.


172 posted on 11/07/2007 9:06:16 PM PST by Uriah_lost ("I don't apologize for the United States of America," -Fred D Thompson)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks, always interesting reading.


173 posted on 11/07/2007 11:34:25 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (This is "Be an Angel Day", do something nice for someone today.)
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To: Uriah_lost; neverdem; Non-Sequitur
You see guys, I wasn't imagining that news broadcast (refer to my post #80).

It was well known within the airline industry that El-Al had that slot.

174 posted on 11/08/2007 7:52:56 AM PST by pray4liberty (Watch and pray.)
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To: pray4liberty

And I’ll repeat, show me a terrorist who bases his plans on a airplane leaving on time from JFK and I’ll show you a terrortist who has either never flown into or out of New York or who is a complete idiot.


175 posted on 11/08/2007 7:58:01 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Diogenesis

I would guess that information pertaining to TWA 800 was included in the documents stolen by Berger.

John


176 posted on 11/08/2007 8:09:39 AM PST by Diggity
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