Posted on 11/10/2007 5:02:45 AM PST by dano1
I don't know that much about Duncan Hunter, but what I do know about him I like. None of the candidates is perfect, but some people think that Huckabee may be the best alternative from among the current GOP front-runners. One thing about Hunter is that unfortunately he doesn't seem to be gaining much traction at the moment. Is the reason you are dissing Huckabee to try to help Hunter, and if so, do you think this is really helping Hunter?
Hillary Rodham Clinton now appears poised for a 49-state sweep regardless of the Republican nominee. (I live in Oklahoma, and I don’t know any Oklahomans who even might consider voting for Hillary, so she might not carry this state.)
First of all, evangelical Christians are all over the map politically, and they seem much more conservative that they are because the President's political advisers have been very astute with evangelical hot button issues.
But, since my post was about Mike Huckabee and not about RINOs, what does your comment have to do with what I wrote about Huckabee?
Yes, for those who make "life and marriage" their top issues, and who don't care what their guy will do on borders, welfare, spending, criminal justice, or socialism, Huckabee is a very attractive choice.
I’ve been saying that she will fall a state or two short of the 44 won by LBJ 44 years ago. LBJ won OK, but HRC might lose it unless the Democrat Governor can save her.
This is evidence of deep crisis, which transcends the question of who gets elected.
Modern media, modern campaign finance, computers, and sixty-two fat years have combined to produce a species of "leader" whose principal life achievement is getting picked to be a leader.
Karl Rove and George W. Bush identified a way to win, twice, by putting together voters in chunks, down to the block level.
I don't think the Bush team had a single thought about conservative governance. They excelled at conservative branding, and promoting brand loyalty, but although electoral victory is necessary, it is not sufficient.
The Clinton crime family is no different - they just have a different marketing strategy.
If you read FR every day, you can find lots of GOP activist voters whose principal concern is what "their guy" can be gotten to say. Yes! Mitt is pro-life! Yes! Fred is a conservative! Yes, Huckabee has a personal relationship with You Know Who!
What these guys will DO, how they will fracture the concrete which has encased our political system and overcome the forces which prevent conservative social change? Who knows? Who cares?
Either our "system" starts to produce leaders again, or it will vanish, and soon.
I came up with just three:
1) Morals: Huckabee passes.
2) Make America stronger: Huckabee very doubtful
3) Increase Americans self reliance: Huckabee fails badly.
“Unfortunately, the marriage of “evangelical” with “conservative” tends to produce offspring like this, with W as exhibit #1.”
Millions of us believe in a coming “Kingdom on Earth” and when it comes, the world will be ruled by a benevolent (but no-nonsense) King, named Jesus Christ, from David’s Throne in Jerusalem. NO POLITICAL CAMPAIGN IN THE UNITED STATES COULD EVER BRING THAT TO PASS.
If Mr. Huckabee is a Christian Marxist or Christian Socialist, then he is deluded.
I'm not sure what you mean by this one. Self-reliance in what way? Do you mean like manufacturing?
“I’m not sure what you mean by this one. Self-reliance in what way? Do you mean like manufacturing?”
No, I mean getting people off the government teat and using the bully pulpit to make shirkers ashamed.
Thanks.
My self reliance included several things and meant more to me than the simple term “self reliance” would mean to someone else.
Conservative? Hahahahaha!
Mike Huckabee. The Socialist From Arkansas. http://www.cofcc.org/?p=811
Mike Huckabee disses Americans, Mexicans, promotes illegal immigration
http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005609.html
Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html
While Gov. of Arkansas, Huckabee was AGAINST proving citizenship in order to register to vote. He called those who were in favor of this “racists”...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_lz1e18perkins.html
Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill, “anti-Christian” and “un-American”...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html
Huckabee supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/03/11/News/318458.html
Huck’s opposition to the illegal aliens bill:
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html
Huckabee promotes 'open door' policy at LULAC convention Thursday, Jun 30, 2005
By Wesley Brown
Arkansas News Bureau
LITTLE ROCK - In a impassioned speech before hundreds of influential Hispanic civil rights leaders from across the nation, Gov. Mike Huckabee told a captive audience Wednesday that America is great because it has always opened it doors up to people seeking a better way of life.
"Do unto others as you would have others do unto you," Huckabee said, citing the Golden Rule. "I have tried to govern that way and it stands to reason that I really do believe that what made this great country so great and so unique is that it has always been a place for people to run to - and not run from.
"I would hope that no matter who we are, or where we are from, that America should always be a place that opens its arms, opens it heart, opens its spirit to people who come because they want the best for their families ...," Huckabee said as the largely Hispanic audience gave him a standing ovation.
Huckabee was the keynote speaker, along with Tyson Foods Inc. Chairman and CEO John Tyson, at a noon luncheon of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which is holding its 76th annual convention in Little Rock.
About 10,000 political, community and business leaders, along with exhibitors and speakers are in Little Rock attending the convention at the Statehouse Convention Center. The convention started Monday and runs through Saturday.
Although he never actually talked about the U.S. or Arkansas immigration policy, Huckabee made it very clear where he stood on the issue. In his opening remarks, he said the nation will need to address the concerns of the Hispanic community because of its growing influence and population base.
"Pretty soon, Southern white guys like me may be in the minority," Huckabee said jokingly as the crowd roared in laughter.
He told the LULAC delegates that their presence in the state's capital city was very important because Arkansas has one of the fastest growing Hispanic populations in the nation.
"Your gathering is so very significant for our state," Huckabee said. "We are delighted to have you."
Despite several light moments, Huckabee did not stray away from several controversial issues that made him a target of criticism during the recently ended 85th General Assembly. He said Arkansas needs to make the transition from a traditional Southern state to one that recognizes and cherishes diversity "in culture, in language and in population."
"This is an issue that is going to require extraordinary efforts on both sides of the border, particularly those coming from Mexico," Huckabee said of verifying the status of illegal aliens. "But I am confident that our government will recognize that we should accommodate people who wish to provide the best opportunities for their families (and) employers so that we can make sure our economy has the necessary work force."
During the legislation session, Huckabee criticized an immigration bill by Republican senators Jim Holt of Springdale and Denny Altes of Fort Smith as un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life.
Senate Bill 206, which died in the Senate, would have required proof of citizenship to register to vote and also force state agencies to report suspected cases of people living in the country illegally. Holt, R-Springdale, replied later to Huckabee's comments that Christian charity does not include turning a blind eye to lawbreaking.
The Republican governor, who many believe will run for president in 2008, also backed legislation that would have opened the door for illegal immigrants in Arkansas to receive college scholarships.
House Bill 1525 by Rep. Joyce Elliott, D-Little Rock, was approved by the House but eventually failed in the Senate. Huckabee reiterated Wednesday that he believes every child, regardless of their parent's immigration status, should have an opportunity to receive an education in the U.S.
"I ... believe that an education for every child is the most important single factor to give everyone to be their very best," he said.
In one humorous moment, Huckabee sounded very much like a presidential candidate when he recalled his educational upbringing in Hope and reminded the crowd that another famous Arkansas governor and former president grew up in the small southwest Arkansas town.
"I too still believe in a place call Hope," Huckabee said, mimicking former President Clinton's famous acceptance speech at the 1992 Democratic National Convention.
Before Huckabee spoke, John Tyson thanked the Hispanic community for standing by the Springdale-based food giant during the federal government's investigation of the company a few years ago. The U.S. Justice Department investigation alleged that Tyson helped to smuggle illegal aliens into the U.S. and employed them at various chicken-processing plants across the Southeast.
After a seven-week trial, Tyson and several managers of poultry processing plants were acquitted in March 2003 of those charges.
"At the time, it was a very difficult and very tough time for our company," Tyson said. "Thank you LULAC for standing by us."
Tyson also credited LULAC leaders for pushing the company to add Hispanics to the Tyson board and promote more Latinos to upper management and executive positions.
He also said in that last 15 years, the number of Hispanics that work for the Arkansas company has increased significantly.
"I am proud to tell you that more than 40,000 of our workers are Latinos," Tyson said of the company's 114,000 employees. "We are learning, growing and benefiting from that diversity."
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He has compared illegal aliens to slaves brought here in chains from Africa, saying, "I think frankly the Lord is giving us a second chance to do better than we did before."
Toward that end, when an Arkansas legislator introduced a bill that would prevent illegal aliens from voting and receiving state benefits, Huckabee denounced the bill, saying it would rile up "those who are racist and bigots."
He also made the insane point that companies like Toyota would not invest in Arkansas if the state didn't allow non-citizens to vote because it would "send the message that, essentially, 'If you don't look like us, talk like us and speak like us, we don't want you.'
DO NOT BUY THE SNAKE OIL THIS FRAUD IS PEDDLING. He is another Jimmy Carter.
I would imagine that their are many closet supporters of HRC in OK — people just afraid to confess their liberalism.
No thanks to Huckabee, just a Christian socialist with a “big heart.” Take your big heart elsewhere Mike!
MEMO
TO: Traditionalist rural Christian voters in Iowa
FROM: LA Times, NY Times, Washington Post, Salon
RE: Mike Huckabee
DATE: November 11, 2007
Dear Bible Thumping toothless rednecks,
Please remember to vote for the tax raising, environmentalist wacko, nanny state sheeple controlling, smoker banning, open border third world American killing candidate we tell you to vote for in the primary....Mike Huckabee. He is pro life and he talks about Jesus. That should be good enough for you.
Thank you,
The Elitist left wing media
The liberal MSM must really think Social Conservatives are stupid. They keep pitching and pimping the Huckster hoping somebody will buy.
To be added please FReepmail me or OB1KNOB.
Yup, plus another...
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