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Hillary Clinton suddenly vulnerable as bruises start to show [Better put some ice on that!]
New York Daily News ^ | 11/12/2007 | Michael McAuliff

Posted on 11/12/2007 3:53:26 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

DES MOINES - Where did Hillary Clinton's mojo go?

That's what her campaign has to be asking after a rough two weeks. And more importantly, they have to be wondering how to recapture that fading aura of an unstoppable juggernaut.

Top Clinton strategist Mark Penn doesn't own up to his candidate suffering a dip, but he admits it's been tougher of late.

"The opponents went negative, and that created a new dynamic and a different set of headlines," Penn said.

The new dynamic emerged at the debate in Philadelphia two weeks ago, but didn't just spring from sharp criticism by her opponents. Clinton stumbled by offering fuzzy answers to some questions and refusing to take a stance on Gov. Spitzer's license plan for illegal immigrants.

Then Camp Clinton's damage control backfired as she was pounded for suggesting the "boys" ganged up on her. And Bill Clinton brought more scorn when he said the attempt to get an answer out of his wife on licenses verged on John Kerry Swift Boat territory.

Now Penn and company plan to stick to the high road, talking about Clinton's strength, experience and vision for America, fund-raising at a torrid rate and deploying Bill Clinton more.

They're also launching counterattacks, calling her opponents mudslingers.

"I think it's sinking in to the electorate that people who had pledges to not attack Democrats were abandoning those pledges," Penn said.

Clinton remains way ahead in national polls, though some have shown a slip and a survey in early voting New Hampshire out yesterday showed a tightening race there.

The focus for staving off any Clinton collapse, though, starts in Iowa, where the candidates wooed party faithful at the state Democrats' biggest event of the year over the weekend.

Iowa Democrats said they didn't feel Clinton is headed down yet, but many thought the bruises were starting to show over her immigration nonposition and a new flareup over revelations that Hillaryland planted questions in two "conversations" with voters.

"I've turned a little more negative on her because of the immigration issue," said Terry Edwards, a trucker from Waukee, Iowa. "She flip-flops on that. I'd like to know where she stands."

"She's vulnerable, definitely," said Paul Willis of Thornton, Iowa, who said Clinton has what it takes to win, but could also implode. "As people get to know the other candidates, they're saying, 'Maybe there is a second choice.'"

Some Democrats saw damage from the attacks but liked Clinton more.

"I think it is hurting her, although for me, it's made me feel a little better toward her," said Roy McCoy, of Riverside, Iowa. "I don't like bullying."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2008; cankles; democratparty; election2008; elections; hillary; hillaryclinton; plantgate
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To: UCANSEE2

McCoy appears to be a real person who owns a concret/masonry company in IA. Supported Vilsack and endorses Gean-Edwards socks


61 posted on 11/12/2007 8:33:26 AM PST by kalee
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To: ripley

Couldn’t disagree more. If the Dems thought the next election was a slam dunk they wouldn’t be working so hard to get drivers licenses for illegals so they could vote. The last Dem presidential candidate to get more than 50% of the vote was Jimmy Carter with 50.1% in 1976. The Dems know they don’t have the majority of the electorate in this country.


62 posted on 11/12/2007 8:40:35 AM PST by LadyNavyVet
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To: Miss Didi

That thread is a laugh riot. My personal favorite:

“But did she tip the plants?”
“Not enough, apparently.”

Gotta love the DUmpster.


63 posted on 11/12/2007 8:51:47 AM PST by LadyNavyVet
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To: TNCMAXQ
I don't think Mrs. Bill can win the election unless the Republican she faces is Giuliani. If he is the Republican nominee the MSM-papers and networks will be wall-to-wall every day with Giuliani Scandals. He provides more material than anyone else in politics except for the Clintons and MSM ignores the Clintons. Clinton Scandals, when they become known, only increase their support on the left. It shows they will do what is necessary and have no morals which is what it will take to bring socialism. Giuliani has no protection and the social conservatives he has to have to win will find other things to do on Election Day and will forget to vote.

MSM will dig up and invent scandals for any Republican candidate but the phony ones don't hold up so well any more because of the Inet. Giuliani has far too many real unrebuttable problems.

64 posted on 11/12/2007 9:04:59 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"I think it is hurting her, although for me, it's made me feel a little better toward her," said Roy McCoy, of Riverside, Iowa. "I don't like bullying."

Just how safe would you be in a foxhole with Roy McCoy?

65 posted on 11/12/2007 9:11:36 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: kalee
Speaking of Poppy Bush...

In this photo provided by the U.S. Army Golden Knights, Former President George H.W. Bush is shown during his free fall with U.S. Army Golden Knights parachute team member, Sgt. 1st Class Mike Elliott, as he made his entrance to his presidential museum during a rededication ceremony in College Station, Texas, on Saturday, Nov. 10, 2007.



66 posted on 11/12/2007 9:20:05 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: kalee

My apologies to Mr. McCoy.

Thanks for providing that info.


67 posted on 11/12/2007 9:21:23 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (- Attention all planets of the solar Federation--Secret plan codeword: Banana)
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To: LadyNavyVet
Yes, the DUmp is a riot.

Rush covering Questiongate as we speak...he thinks Clinton Inc. is now shaking in its boots.
68 posted on 11/12/2007 9:26:30 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: LadyNavyVet

“if the dems thought the next election was a slam dunk they wouldn’t be working so hard to get drivers licenses for illegals...the dems know they don’t have the majority of the electorate in this country.”

ah, sweet reason; sweet little morsels. thanks.


69 posted on 11/12/2007 9:27:01 AM PST by ripley
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To: Miss Didi
OH MY GOSH...Rush just played Mrs. Clinton on an “ex-wife rant” as he calls it. Rush says she off-script...it was pure screeching!!!
70 posted on 11/12/2007 9:38:10 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

Now Rush playing Queen Bee Pelosi in Iowa introducing the “next President of the United States...Bar-ak O-ba-ma!” Rush says—whatever happened to the women vote???


71 posted on 11/12/2007 9:41:24 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi
Let's try that again...

OH MY GOSH...Rush just played Mrs. Clinton in an “ex-wife rant” as he calls it. Rush says she is off-script...it was pure screeching!!! (see what that voice does to you!)
72 posted on 11/12/2007 9:48:21 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Maggie Thatcher didn’t take guff from anybody. Hillary’s first response is “boo-hoo, I’m a woman, you big meanies!” Who do YOU want with a hand on the Big Button?


73 posted on 11/12/2007 9:50:39 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I think everyone is so worried about Hillary here, but let's look at some news. We're finally getting some good news out of Iraq that the number of fallen soldiers have been going down for the last four months. We are controlling more areas of Iraq. The economy is still going strong, even w/ the credit crunch making the market act up. If you put any GOP candidate against Hillary eight months from now...come on, who do you think the country is going to choose???

WatchingHillary.com


74 posted on 11/12/2007 9:56:40 AM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.WatchingHillary.com)
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To: Miss Didi

I think the other picture juxtaposed with this one is more telling; the one with some of the male ‘Rat candidates standing around and yukking it up, while Shrillary is having a serious conversation with a woman, and a black woman at that (never mind she’s Obama’s wife- the MSM is targeting the portion of the electorate that looks at pictures for its information). Anyone know whose pictures they are? Surely they are Clinton stooges.


75 posted on 11/12/2007 10:01:10 AM PST by Apparatchik
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To: Miss Didi
Correction to the Queen Bee Pelosi post...she introduced ALL the candidates as “the next President of the United States...”
76 posted on 11/12/2007 10:09:19 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi


Audio link here (if you dare): Hillary's Ex-Wife Scream Returns
77 posted on 11/12/2007 2:50:40 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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