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Too Close to Kooky [Ron Paul]
Yahoo News ^ | Nov 16 2007 | Mona Charen

Posted on 11/17/2007 6:56:56 PM PST by camerakid400

Memo to: Ron Paul supporters

Subject: Your e-mails

Okay, enough is enough. Like every other journalist in America, and who knows, maybe the world or even the universe, I've been deluged with your letters and e-mails. So I've done as you asked and taken a closer look at your candidate. Here is what I've found:

1. Ron Paul is inconsistent. Though he calls himself a man of principle and is apparently admired as such by his ardent fans, his principles seem somewhat elastic. He rails against the Bush administration for its supposed assault on civil liberties, yet when he was asked at one of the debates whether Scooter Libby deserved a pardon, he said no. "He doesn't deserve one because he was instrumental in leading the Congress and the people to support a war that we didn't need to be in." Notice that he didn't say it was because Libby was guilty of committing a crime. No, because Libby argued for a policy with which Paul disagreed, he deserved to serve time in prison. Ron Paul, the libertarian, who presumably values liberty above all, is willing to deprive someone else of his because of a policy disagreement?

2. Ron Paul is historically challenged. He argues that by embracing isolationism, he fits within a Republican tradition stretching back to Eisenhower "who stopped the Korean War" and including Nixon "who stopped the war in Vietnam." Let's recap. Eisenhower threatened to use nuclear weapons against China. It was the Eisenhower administration that had a hand in toppling Iran's Mohammad Mossedegh (an intervention that Paul has elsewhere cited as causing the U.S. grief 25 years later when the Islamists took power). Eisenhower also intervened in Guatemala, Cuba (planning for the Bay of Pigs began during his tenure) and Lebanon.

Nixon, an isolationist? Most observers, whatever they may make of detente with the USSR and the opening to China, agree that Nixon was an emphatic internationalist. For the record, he intervened in many countries including Chili, Peru and Cambodia. And he saved Israel by resupplying her during the Yom Kippur war. Neither his successes nor failures grew out of a Paulesque policy of "minding our own business."

3. Ron Paul is unserious. Suggesting that you will eliminate the IRS, the CIA, the FBI and other government agencies within weeks of taking office is ridiculous. These are bumper stickers, not serious reform proposals.

4. Ron Paul is too cozy with kooks and conspiracy theorists. As syndicated radio host Michael Medved has pointed out, Ron Paul's newspaper column was carried by the American Free Press (a parent publication of the Hitler-praising Barnes Review). Paul may not have been aware of this. But though invited by Medved to disavow any connection, Paul has so far failed to respond.

Paul has appeared on the Alex Jones radio program not once, not twice, but three times. Jones is the sort who believes that black helicopters are coming to impose a police state on America. He is quite concerned about the Bohemian Grove, the Bilderbergers, the federal election system (it's rigged, of course) and so on. Naturally, he believes that 9/11 was an inside job. Ron Paul has even appeared in a Jones film, "Endgame," the point of which is apparently that the Bilderbergers are plotting to control the world. They've already got Europe (through the European Union) and now are on the verge of securing America by means of a North American union that would unite Mexico, the United States and Canada.

Even if Paul says nothing insane in this film, his appearance alone calls his judgment into question. I have not seen "Endgame," but I have heard a tape of Paul on the Jones program just after the 2006 election. Jones asked the congressman whether the victory for the Democrats wasn't a "rejection of neo-fascist imperialism." Paul replied, "Yeah . . . This was a healthy election as far as I'm concerned."

Ron Paul is the favorite candidate of a number of racist, neo-Nazi and conspiracist websites. While Paul cannot be held accountable for the views of cranks and kooks, he can disavow their support and return their checks. He received $500 from Don Black, the proprietor of Stormfront.org and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He has not yet returned it.

Moreover, Paul seems to be playing a sly game with his conspiracy-minded fans. He does not explicitly endorse the crazier theories out there, but he hints at dark forces in the U.S. government threatening our liberties, he inveighs against the "neo-cons" (shorthand for Jews in some circles) and he gives aid and comfort to the paranoid by appearing on their favorite radio shows.

No, Ron Paul is not my candidate. Not for president. He might make a dandy new leader for the Branch Davidians.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: monacharen; moonbats; paulestinians; ronpaul; ronpaulrevolution; weneedapurgejim
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1 posted on 11/17/2007 6:56:57 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400

Home run! Out of the park!

Ron Paul is straight outta kookville and I know that I’ll get flamed...but this post is 100% correct.


2 posted on 11/17/2007 7:00:24 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: camerakid400
Ron Paul is unserious. Suggesting that you will eliminate the IRS, the CIA, the FBI and other government agencies within weeks of taking office is ridiculous. These are bumper stickers, not serious reform proposals.

BUMP

3 posted on 11/17/2007 7:02:30 PM PST by Constitution Day (Everything was fine until membership lost its privileges)
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To: camerakid400

L Ron is irrelevant.


4 posted on 11/17/2007 7:04:04 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom

What scares me is the chance that the irrelevant Ron Paul will be the Ross Perot of 2008.


5 posted on 11/17/2007 7:05:04 PM PST by Hazwaste (Now with added lemony freshness!)
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To: camerakid400
‘black helicopters are coming to impose a police state on America’

At least the author is accurate.

6 posted on 11/17/2007 7:05:47 PM PST by BGHater (Lead. The MSG for the 21st Century.)
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To: RockinRight
I ain't flaming ya, kid. He's our Dennis Kucinich.......


7 posted on 11/17/2007 7:08:32 PM PST by Viking2002 (Waterboarding the Left every chance I get.)
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To: camerakid400

Alex Jones is more than a Truther, he started the “9/11 was an inside job” bunk.


8 posted on 11/17/2007 7:10:06 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Hazwaste

I doubt it. He’s already said he wouldn’t run as a third party candidate, and even if he did he would steal just as many, if not more, votes from the dims.


9 posted on 11/17/2007 7:10:15 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON/ DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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To: camerakid400
Back in the day when I was a diehard, big L libertarian, and Ron Paul was running for the nomination by the LP to be its candidate for president, I worked for and supported the opposition candidate for the nomination, Russell Means. I met RP in the late 80s when I was a (L)ibertarian activist and I was not impressed then, and he's gone completely 'round the bend since IMO.

Ron Paul, WRONG for AMERICA!!

10 posted on 11/17/2007 7:10:22 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: BGHater

no they are coming to take YOU away.
To the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time!


11 posted on 11/17/2007 7:10:29 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: ari-freedom

12 posted on 11/17/2007 7:10:30 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: Neil E. Wright

As I recall, Russell Means was active in supporting the anti-sandinista Contras in Nicaragua. No isolationist, Mr. Means.


13 posted on 11/17/2007 7:12:06 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: camerakid400

yeah and never mind the not so small grudge the sons of Ishmael have for getting kicked out of Abraham’s house. This is a feud that goes way back to even before mohammad.


14 posted on 11/17/2007 7:24:25 PM PST by ari-freedom (I am for traditional moral values, a strong national defense, and free markets.)
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To: Larry Lucido
Russell's slogan during the campaign was "Russell Means Freedom" .... While I did have some problems with some of his positions, IMO Russell truly believed in and supported FREEDOM around the globe, for ALL PEOPLES. He was head and shoulders above RP then, and if he hasn't changed much since then, and if he was running for public office where I live, I'd have no problem voting for him now.

Of course, I haven't had any contact with him in about 20 years, and if he's gone the way of the LP (i.e., 'round the bend, as it were), then that last statement of mine is definitely subject to change. :)

15 posted on 11/17/2007 7:25:16 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: camerakid400

Don’t drink the Ron Paul kool-aid.


16 posted on 11/17/2007 7:29:00 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: camerakid400

Curious, who is the Author of the Email?


17 posted on 11/17/2007 7:29:51 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: RockinRight
.but this post is 100% correct

LOL, so you don't care about Constitutional limitations on the Executive Branch either I see. The comment section where this was originally posted rips this 'opinion' piece apart

18 posted on 11/17/2007 7:34:35 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Neil E. Wright

By way of correction, Means was a supporter of the Miskito indians, who were aligned with the contra and victims of Danny Ortega and his goons. If I recall correctly, Marlon Brando financed his endeavors for the Miskitos.

Another interesting tidbit: Ward Churchill gave Means’ nomination speech, if the Wikipedia account is accurate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Means


19 posted on 11/17/2007 7:34:41 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Hunter 2008)
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To: Hazwaste

“What scares me is the chance that the irrelevant Ron Paul will be the Ross Perot of 2008.”

Paul has said he won’t run independent or third party. It doesn’t matter. If Giuliani gets the nod, none of the Paul supporters will even show up to vote. They don’t want another big government liberal. It will be like 2006 all over again. Wasn’t that fun?

Maybe someone in the big tent of the GOP should ask why Ron Paul’s ideas are so popular and why he has so much support. Perhaps some opportunistic strategist can determine what can be done to woo his supporters. If not, the GOP will be losing a chunk of its base.


20 posted on 11/17/2007 7:34:48 PM PST by FreeInWV
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