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Murtha Fights Marine’s Defamation Lawsuit
CQ.com ^ | Nov 19 2007 | Kathleen Hunter

Posted on 11/19/2007 4:28:44 PM PST by camerakid400

Lawyers for Rep. John P. Murtha will appeal a recent ruling advancing a defamation lawsuit brought against the Pennsylvania Democrat by a U.S. Marine under investigation for killing Iraqi civilians.

Justice Department lawyers representing Murtha on Nov. 16 filed notice that they planned to appeal a federal district court judge’s Sept. 28 ruling allowing the lawsuit to proceed and ordering Murtha to give sworn testimony in the case.

Marine Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich sued Murtha in August 2006, accusing the 17-term congressman of defaming him during a news conference last year on the Nov. 19, 2005 killings of Iraqi civilians in Haditha.

Wuterich charges that Murtha “publicly and falsely” accused him and other Marines involved in the Haditha incident of “cold-blooded murder and war crimes” and of attempting a cover-up, according to court documents.

Military prosecutors initially charged four enlisted Marines — including Wuterich — with murder and accused four officers of dereliction of duty for failing to adequately investigate the incident.

Charges against four Marines have been dropped and two others will face court-martial, but not for murder.

After a hearing that concluded Sept. 6, an investigating officer recommended Wuterich face court-martial for negligent homicide. Marine Lt. Gen. James Mattis, the commander charged with court-martial authority in the case, has yet to decide whether he will stand trial.

Murtha meanwhile had been ordered to sit for a deposition Nov. 27 to help determine whether he was acting in his official capacity as a U.S. government employee when he made the Haditha comments, as his lawyers have argued.

If the court determines Murtha indeed was acting in his official capacity, the U.S. government could be substituted as the defendant — a move that would effectively neuter the case because the federal government cannot be sued for libel.

But Wuterich’s lawyer, Mark S. Zaid, said Monday that the deposition now likely will be delayed, pending a determination from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. The court will have to determine whether it has the jurisdiction to hear Murtha’s appeal at this stage or if it should wait until a lower court determine’s the fate of Wuterich’s lawsuit.

U.S. Attorney Darrell C. Valdez, who represents Murtha, did not respond to a request for comment.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; compassrose; defamation; lawsuit; markszaid; markzaid; murtha; murthawatch; wuterich; zaid
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1 posted on 11/19/2007 4:28:45 PM PST by camerakid400
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To: camerakid400
Justice Department lawyers representing Murtha

our tax dollars at work

2 posted on 11/19/2007 4:30:35 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo; RedRover; Girlene

Ping


3 posted on 11/19/2007 4:30:59 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: camerakid400
Justice Department lawyers representing Murtha .. WTF????

How about he pays for his own lawyers?????

4 posted on 11/19/2007 4:31:16 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: camerakid400

I hope Wuterich really cleans Murtha’s clock. Looks like it’s gonna be an uphill battle.


5 posted on 11/19/2007 4:32:31 PM PST by upchuck (Hildabeaste as Prez... unimaginable, devastating misery! She will redefine "How bad can it get?")
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To: Just A Nobody

Woo! Freakin’ Hoo!!!


6 posted on 11/19/2007 4:33:26 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams Since 11/20/06)
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To: Freee-dame

murtha......the other white bitch


7 posted on 11/19/2007 4:33:57 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: camerakid400
I do not believe that Murtha was acting on behalf of the US when he made that lying rant.

Extemporaneous speech outside of DC chambers should not be protected from civil action.

8 posted on 11/19/2007 4:34:48 PM PST by bill1952 ("all that we do is done with an eye towards something else." - Aristotle)
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To: Robe
How about he pays for his own lawyers?????

The "little people" are the ones who pay for their own lawyers, not important people like Murtha

I hope the SOB is made to testify

9 posted on 11/19/2007 4:34:56 PM PST by Popman (My doohickey is discombobulated)
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To: camerakid400
If the court determines Murtha indeed was acting in his official capacity, the U.S. government could be substituted as the defendant — a move that would effectively neuter the case because the federal government cannot be sued for libel.

First, Murtha wasn't on the floor of Congress, which he claimed initially as his defense. He's been ducking his words since he uttered them. He needs to be sued and censured.

Second, the federal government cannot be sued for libel something wrong there. The government can trash a citizen's reputation causing undeterminable harm to that individual and simply answer "whoops, my bad"?

10 posted on 11/19/2007 4:35:04 PM PST by infidel29 (Voting for Paul? Might as well make it Ru Paul, he's got better legs.)
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To: Robe

“Justice Department lawyers representing Murtha .. WTF????

How about he pays for his own lawyers?????”

I am NOT, repeat, NOT defending Murtha, but if anybody can sue any congressman any time he or she says something critical, it would be a bad situation. We despise what Murtha said, but next time it could be an abortion doctor suing for being called a baby killer or something similar.


11 posted on 11/19/2007 4:35:47 PM PST by gracesdad
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To: camerakid400
Murtha meanwhile had been ordered to sit for a deposition Nov. 27 to help determine whether he was acting in his official capacity as a U.S. government employee when he made the Haditha comments, as his lawyers have argued.

What does accusing the Marines of "killing innocent civilians in cold blood" BEFORE an investigation have to do with his "official capacity" as a US gov employee?

We are supposed to have the "innocent until proven guilty" provision for our citizens...and now terrorists and illegal alien invaders.

He acted as the prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner, which is not in his job description as a US CONgre$$critter.

12 posted on 11/19/2007 4:38:44 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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-as long as Murtha is censured and voted out of office....let’s proceed.


13 posted on 11/19/2007 4:39:27 PM PST by tioga (Over the river and through the woods to Grandmother's house we go...)
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To: camerakid400
If the court determines Murtha indeed was acting in his official capacity, the U.S. government could be substituted as the defendant —

I hope that weasel does not get off that easy. He should be made responsible for his comments.

14 posted on 11/19/2007 4:39:31 PM PST by Always Right
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To: camerakid400

Isn’t Murtha on the House Armed Services Committee?

How is that not then “unlawful command influence” under the UCMJ?

Seems like it should be.


15 posted on 11/19/2007 4:40:40 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: infidel29
The government can trash a citizen's reputation causing undeterminable harm to that individual and simply answer "whoops, my bad"?

There is precedent:
Scooter Libby
Tom DeLay
Joe McCarthy
The Haditha Marines
Illario Pantano

...for starters

16 posted on 11/19/2007 4:42:07 PM PST by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: tioga
-as long as Murtha is censured and voted out of office....let’s proceed.

Not a chance. Murtha had a worthy opponent last election and she did not even come close. Johnstown is completely and totally dependent on Murtha's pork. More so than any district in the country.

17 posted on 11/19/2007 4:42:32 PM PST by Always Right
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To: camerakid400
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Who am I... and WHY AM I HERE???

ohh, yeah... THE SLANDER!!!

18 posted on 11/19/2007 4:43:09 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: gracesdad

When this country first started, politicians defaming people often lost their lives when they were forced to duel over it.


19 posted on 11/19/2007 4:44:34 PM PST by Dogbert41
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To: camerakid400; Just A Nobody; abigailsmybaby; Badeye; bmwcyle; brityank; desherwood7; FairOpinion; ..
The despicable Murtha is pulling out all the stops to keep from being deposed under oath, hopefully he's really squirming.

Thanks for the ping, Justa.

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20 posted on 11/19/2007 4:44:40 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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