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1 posted on 11/21/2007 10:42:55 AM PST by maddog55
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Calling Nada Nadim Prouty. Please pick up the red courtesy phone.


2 posted on 11/21/2007 10:46:54 AM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Jeff Head
Perhaps of interest.
3 posted on 11/21/2007 10:48:04 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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As somebody who was around when Nixon opened the door I could see this coming

DETENTE was another screwup

Him and Kissinger were foreign policy idiots


4 posted on 11/21/2007 10:49:00 AM PST by uncbob (m first)
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MI Ping


5 posted on 11/21/2007 10:49:14 AM PST by ASA Vet
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It may be simplistic, but my understanding is that CIA really missed
the implosion of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall.

No suprise if our intelligence operatives (despite the good ones that
labor in dangerous, unsung roles) would miss the build up of another menace.

I just hope we at least have some good intell that percolates out into
the public consciousness.

Like the leakers in the British military that let Churchill know that
the British were NOT keeping up with the Germans in the years preceding
WWII.


6 posted on 11/21/2007 10:50:42 AM PST by VOA
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I don’t know if you saw this but it’s pretty bad when DOD officials simply shrug their shoulders when asked who is manufacturing our military parts and equipment.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/15/AR2007111502120.html?hpid=sec-nation


8 posted on 11/21/2007 10:53:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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A congressional commission on China reported last week that U.S. intelligence agencies have failed to properly assess Beijing's military buildup and capabilities and were taken by surprise on key developments, including new submarines built in secret.

I have predicted this exact circumstance for more than a decade.  We'll be funding China until the bullets fly.  And those who made fortunes off trade with China will slip back into the woodwork like the human roaches they are.

9 posted on 11/21/2007 10:54:50 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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Government could function with only 50% of their current staffing AND if it could eliminate pc-ism and political patronage. BUT, I guess it is easier and more satisfying to continue to believe in the tooth ferry.
Real leaders are politically destroyed and incompetent wimps are encouraged by our present system. We are decaying within from and the stench is now noticable.


11 posted on 11/21/2007 10:55:54 AM PST by caisson71
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Our continuing Trade Deficit with China is just paying for their military. They bring their crap into the country, because it’s manufactured cheaply and take the monies to build that military.


12 posted on 11/21/2007 10:56:20 AM PST by Pistolshot (Never argue with stupid people, they just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience)
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These morons all need to be fired and replaced by any number of FReepers who have been watching China’s build-up with alarm, most notably, our pard Jeff Head. He’s been saying this for years, and now we find out that our wonderful government is surprised???? Where have they been?


13 posted on 11/21/2007 10:57:41 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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Delivering a dozen nuclear attack submarines in a single year seems fast, perhaps a little too fast for the Chinese.

Given the close defense business relationship between the Chinese and Russian governments (e.g., the Chinese have the money and the Russians have the systems), is there any possibility that Russian shpyards are building and delivering these submarines covertly?

Might go a long way to explain where some of the surprises to US Intelligence are coming from.


14 posted on 11/21/2007 10:58:46 AM PST by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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Another reason why Duncan Hunter is someone we should be seriously looking at for president.

He's the only one talking about the China threat.
15 posted on 11/21/2007 11:00:56 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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Thank you George H. Bush, for normalizing trade relations with China.

Thanks also to the Clintons for selling off vital military technologies for campaign contributions.

And thanks to the current Bush for the recent military exchanges in which the chicoms get to roam US Navy vessles and facilities while denying us reciprocity in accordance with the agreements.

Just a few things to give thanks for theis weekend—while were still allowed to celebrate Thanksgiving.


17 posted on 11/21/2007 11:10:44 AM PST by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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Gee, ya mean its not a ‘slam dunk’?

Gosh, I’m just shocked....

(sarcasm)


18 posted on 11/21/2007 11:11:39 AM PST by Badeye (That Karma thing keeps coming around, eh Sally? (chuckle))
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I have not been surprised. And it probably comes as no surprise that for the past 6 years, Panda Huggers, Red Team idiots and other TRAITORS (THAT’S RIGHT.... THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN THESE GROUPS ... TRAITORS! ALL OF YOU, TO THE LAST MAN!) have been sliming me for telling the truth.


25 posted on 11/21/2007 12:01:42 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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Whenever your foreign policy is dictated as per rioting college students and that policy is appeasement, you are gonna get screwed. Sometimes it just takes longer to feel the penetration.


26 posted on 11/21/2007 12:26:48 PM PST by Cyman
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Sending all our scrap metal to Japan doesn’t mean a thing. It’s all a part of doing business, opening trading channels to Asia, and making a buck. Oh, wait a minute. Wrong country, wrong century. Never mind.


27 posted on 11/21/2007 12:28:50 PM PST by Gritty (Liberals are always fighting the last battle as the current battle is too frightening-Ann Coulter)
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This has got to be crap.

It doesn’t even take a government analyst to put two-and-two together to guess China will use some of that new found money to upgrade and build-out.


36 posted on 11/21/2007 8:19:09 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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37 posted on 11/22/2007 4:38:56 AM PST by JACKRUSSELL
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I think a blind man could see what’s going on.


39 posted on 11/22/2007 4:45:56 AM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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