That site has consistantly NOT underestimated what the Chinese are doing.
...and this next site, let's folk know what the dangerous possibiliies are of letting it continue unchecked.
Posted on 11/21/2007 10:42:53 AM PST by maddog55
A congressional commission on China reported last week that U.S. intelligence agencies have failed to properly assess Beijing's military buildup and capabilities and were taken by surprise on key developments, including new submarines built in secret.
“The pace and success of China’s military modernization continue to exceed U.S. government estimates,” stated the annual report of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission.
“Indeed, on occasion the U.S. defense and intelligence communities have been taken by surprise, as in the case of the launching of the Jin class submarine by the navy of the People’s Liberation Army.”
The criticism was a slap at pro-China U.S. intelligence officials, including Thomas Fingar, deputy director of national intelligence for analysis, National Intelligence Officer for East Asia Lonnie Henley, a protégé of convicted China spy Ronald Montaperto, and Dennis Wilder, a CIA official who is now the National Security Council staff senior director for Asia.
“Several Chinese advances have surprised U.S. defense and intelligence officials, and raised questions about the quality of our assessments of China’s military capabilities,” the commission report said.
China also could launch up to 10 new Shang-class nuclear attack submarines by next year.
The Jin submarine, also known as the Type 094, is a new class of ballistic missile submarine. It was first photographed in the water in late 2006 moored in Xiaopingdao Submarine Base.
The submarine is believed to be equipped with 12 advanced JL-2 SLBMs with a range of about 8,000 kilometers.
“China’s defense industry is producing new generations of weapons platforms with impressive speed and quality, and these advancements are due in part to the highly effective manner in which Chinese defense companies are integrating commercial technologies into military systems,” the report said.
“Industrial espionage provides Chinese companies an added source of new technology without the necessity of investing time or money to perform research.”
Calling Nada Nadim Prouty. Please pick up the red courtesy phone.
As somebody who was around when Nixon opened the door I could see this coming
DETENTE was another screwup
Him and Kissinger were foreign policy idiots
MI Ping
It may be simplistic, but my understanding is that CIA really missed
the implosion of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall.
No suprise if our intelligence operatives (despite the good ones that
labor in dangerous, unsung roles) would miss the build up of another menace.
I just hope we at least have some good intell that percolates out into
the public consciousness.
Like the leakers in the British military that let Churchill know that
the British were NOT keeping up with the Germans in the years preceding
WWII.
Re: Nixon and Kissinger being foreign policy idiots. This is the usual mistake of confusing stupidity with evil, repeated so often on this forum . . . There is an agenda to push world government, and those pushing it are not stupid, they are evil (I’m not sure Nixon fell into this category, but Kissinger surely does).
I don’t know if you saw this but it’s pretty bad when DOD officials simply shrug their shoulders when asked who is manufacturing our military parts and equipment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/15/AR2007111502120.html?hpid=sec-nation
That site has consistantly NOT underestimated what the Chinese are doing.
...and this next site, let's folk know what the dangerous possibiliies are of letting it continue unchecked.
Government could function with only 50% of their current staffing AND if it could eliminate pc-ism and political patronage. BUT, I guess it is easier and more satisfying to continue to believe in the tooth ferry.
Real leaders are politically destroyed and incompetent wimps are encouraged by our present system. We are decaying within from and the stench is now noticable.
Our continuing Trade Deficit with China is just paying for their military. They bring their crap into the country, because it’s manufactured cheaply and take the monies to build that military.
These morons all need to be fired and replaced by any number of FReepers who have been watching China’s build-up with alarm, most notably, our pard Jeff Head. He’s been saying this for years, and now we find out that our wonderful government is surprised???? Where have they been?
Delivering a dozen nuclear attack submarines in a single year seems fast, perhaps a little too fast for the Chinese.
Given the close defense business relationship between the Chinese and Russian governments (e.g., the Chinese have the money and the Russians have the systems), is there any possibility that Russian shpyards are building and delivering these submarines covertly?
Might go a long way to explain where some of the surprises to US Intelligence are coming from.
You called it correctly. Maybe you should offer your services to our INTEL groups.
Thank you George H. Bush, for normalizing trade relations with China.
Thanks also to the Clintons for selling off vital military technologies for campaign contributions.
And thanks to the current Bush for the recent military exchanges in which the chicoms get to roam US Navy vessles and facilities while denying us reciprocity in accordance with the agreements.
Just a few things to give thanks for theis weekend—while were still allowed to celebrate Thanksgiving.
Gee, ya mean its not a ‘slam dunk’?
Gosh, I’m just shocked....
(sarcasm)
I think it’s already too late to stop China, but it’s not too late to quite gifting it and enabling it.
I don’t know Jeff, it’s just baffles me to see what our leaders have done.
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