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...and pardon these two!! (Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean)
The Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | Colin McNickle

Posted on 11/24/2007 5:16:09 AM PST by Salena Zito

... & pardon these 2 Saturday, November 24, 2007

The degrading, draconian and disgraceful incarceration of former Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean indicates President George W. Bush, the self-anointed compassionate conservative, is capable of stone-cold stupidity. By doing their duty along the near-lawless border with Mexico, Messrs. Ramos and Compean have become tragic symbols of this nation's gross incompetence regarding enforcement of immigration law.

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KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; aliens; amnesty; arizona; border; borderagents; borderpatrol; bush; california; conservatives; democrats; donutwatch; gop; illegals; immigrantlist; johnnysutton; mexico; pardon; pennsylvania; pittsburgh; security; sutton; texas; whatborder
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To: Salena Zito

“..the self-anointed compassionate conservative, is capable of stone-cold stupidity>”

As well as consciuousless pandering to a foreign power - Mexioc and his “buddies” Vicente Fox and Calderon.


21 posted on 11/24/2007 6:33:51 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Comparative Advantage

Jorge El Segundo, El Gringo De Mejico will be the first President in history not invited to his won party’s nominating convention - if the Republican Party knows what’s best for it.


22 posted on 11/24/2007 6:35:01 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Mojohemi

“His brother also is married to a Spanish Person.”

“Jeb” who has the “Son of Jeb” waiting in the wings to assume the family mantle - and he is an unabashed RINO thinkinig his uncle is a bit conservative.


23 posted on 11/24/2007 6:36:24 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Brilliant

There is a reason why COngress’ approval ratings are even lowerer than the record breaking low ratings of this failed President - their inaction on issues like this is an example.


24 posted on 11/24/2007 6:37:32 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: nyyankeefan

PLEEASE Jorge El Segundo, El Gringo de Mejico - give him his proper title!!!


25 posted on 11/24/2007 6:38:19 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“Because in general, among Republicans, the President is still well-received.”

A truly amazing comment given his low ratings. My guess is he is more popular among Democrats - he and his administration are their secret weapon and I travel in Republican circles, being a long term Republican myself and to most of us, he is ANATHEMA.


26 posted on 11/24/2007 6:40:14 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

he should have been arrested the first time he was caught, perps that are americans plead down to lower charges, but from what i’ve seen in the criminal justice system very few get complete immunity from committing a crime to testify about another “crime” (which i believe that they were acting lawfully)

the second time definitely, how many americans get a “free pass” on drug dealing?

from what i understand this is the 3rd time the perp has been caught?

no telling how many other times he’s buzzed right in, although he sounds stupid


27 posted on 11/24/2007 6:41:37 AM PST by machogirl
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To: Salena Zito

If Scooter Libby had shot a drug dealer in the butt instead of obstructing justice and lying under oath he’d still be rotting in jail


28 posted on 11/24/2007 6:43:54 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
His injuries were severe

his injuries were hardly severe. He was shot in the @ss and with Sutton's help, able to smuggle more dope across the border in no time.

29 posted on 11/24/2007 7:31:35 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Brilliant
If Congress were really behind these two, they would retaliate against the Administration and the courts by reducing the penalty for a border control officer shooting, even killing an illegal immigrant entering the US down to a misdemeanor. Let the pro-immigration people feel the heat of a backlash. Brilliant that is brilliant. And I am not being a smart a$$. But why stop at misdemeanor?
30 posted on 11/24/2007 8:16:45 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Nuc1

Because you’ll have to override a veto, and it will never happen if you decriminalize it altogether. Actually, you would have a better chance if you make the misdemeanor apply only to incidents where the alien was not killed. Make it retroactive. That’s all that would be required to get these guys out of jail.


31 posted on 11/24/2007 8:19:48 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Good points. Even if vetoed it would serve notice.

As far as retroactive law making, I thought you were only allowed to do that with taxes on the rich?/s


32 posted on 11/24/2007 8:24:08 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Salena Zito

Thanx for the post.This “case” has bothered me since day one.Sorta reminds me of the Duke LaCrosse frame-up.These men shouldn’t have been prosecuted in the first place.Taking the word of a drug smuggler over two agents?WTF????Read an article yesterday(?)that the prosecutor w-held critical info pertaining to the case.The defence had both hands tied behind their backs.A pardon is a start.Next indict the prosecutor.Then sue the daylights out of the responsible parties.


33 posted on 11/24/2007 8:36:49 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: ZULU

W. buddy Johnny “Traitor” Sutton took a cut in pay to become W’s point man on the border.

Another old pal of W’s was appointed ambassador to Mexico, and married a Mexican beer billionairess. (Wonder where his loyalty lies?)

America is fast becoming a banana republic with nukes.


34 posted on 11/24/2007 8:42:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Nuc1

They could retroactively reduce the penalty. Can’t retroactively increase it.


35 posted on 11/24/2007 8:59:38 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Thombo2

“Taking the word of a drug smuggler over two agents?”

Are you referring to the jury of 12 that convicted them? Do you know how contradictory and unbelievable Ramos and Compeans testimony had to be for the jury to vote in fravor of the drug mules story?


36 posted on 11/24/2007 9:55:10 AM PST by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, there is one striking at its root)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


37 posted on 11/24/2007 10:14:32 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Travis McGee

The Bushes need to be flushed from the American body politic. And those Congresscritters in the House of Lords (Senate) and The House of Representatives, as well as all local offices who continue to pander this invasion by illegal aliens need to be flushed out of office also.


38 posted on 11/24/2007 10:25:22 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
Take the clintons with them.bush clinton then bush , now another clinton. But of course the game is not rigged.
39 posted on 11/24/2007 10:40:11 AM PST by fantom
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To: ZULU

Rumanian terms limits would not be too good for them.


40 posted on 11/24/2007 11:42:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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