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Wolf debate hits close to home for ranchers ( Canadian wolves )
Associated Press...The Billings Gazette ^ | November 24, 2007 | MATTHEW BROWN

Posted on 11/24/2007 6:50:43 PM PST by george76

PRAY - For rancher Randy Petrich, the removal of gray wolves from the endangered-species list - a move that would open up the animals to hunting in the Northern Rockies for the first time in decades - couldn't come soon enough.

Petrich has seen fresh wolf tracks almost every morning this fall - close enough to threaten his cattle.

"I believe that any wolf on any given night, if there happens to be a calf there, they will kill it," ...

Just 12 years since the wolves were reintroduced into Yellowstone National Park ... federal officials say the sharp rise in the wolf population in the region justifies removing them from the endangered species list.

It took $24 million of federal funds and more than two decades to bring wolves back ...

After years of debate, an initial 66 wolves were transplanted into the park from Canada beginning in 1995. Now, an estimated 1,545 roam Idaho, Montana and Wyoming - more than enough, federal official say, to justify removing them from the endangered-species list.

"The more of something you have, the less valuable each individual piece becomes," said Ed Bangs, the Fish and Wildlife Service's wolf recovery project leader. "If you have more wolves than you have now, it's really going to start causing a lot of problems."

David Mech, a University of Minnesota researcher considered one of the world's leading experts on wolf behavior, predicted populations in the Northern Rockies could hold steady or keep expanding, even with hunting permitted...

Since reintroduction, wolf numbers have increased 20 percent to 30 percent a year as the animals thrived in a habitat flush with elk, moose and other prey. Even where entire packs were taken out to curb livestock kills, new packs have quickly filled the gap.

(Excerpt) Read more at billingsgazette.net ...


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Hunting won't put a dent in these Illegally transplanted Canadian Taiga wolves. It will take trapping and snaring and aerial hunting. ... .

You've gotta love Ed Bang's comment - "The more of something you have, the less valuable each individual piece becomes" - We have one Ed Bangs and that's one way too many. Will someone please fire this clown? We can't afford any more of this Bozo's lassons.

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1 posted on 11/24/2007 6:50:45 PM PST by george76
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To: Troublemaker; girlangler; Montana Headlines; CarryaBigStick; 4woodenboats; Osage Orange

2 posted on 11/24/2007 6:56:15 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
wolf numbers have increased 20 percent to 30 percent a year as the animals thrived in a habitat flush with elk, moose and other prey.

Pretty easy to increase 20-30% a year if this is what they mean by "other prey."

3 posted on 11/24/2007 6:56:56 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Carry_Okie; Unrepentant VN Vet; GOP_Raider

Leviticus 26:22


4 posted on 11/24/2007 6:57:40 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

They should look into dogs to help guard their herds.


5 posted on 11/24/2007 6:59:15 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: george76

These poor unappreciated wolves need to be humanely trapped, transported, and released some place where they are truly loved and appreciated, such as Washington DC, New York, San Francisco, or Hollywood.


6 posted on 11/24/2007 7:00:02 PM PST by joshhiggins
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To: SJackson; familyop; B4Ranch; OregonRancher; Leatherneck_MT

Choose number three ?


7 posted on 11/24/2007 7:00:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Simple solution. The envirowhackos can put THEIR money where their mouths are. Every time a wolf kills any livestock, the envirowhackos must pay the rancher 10 times the value of the animal.


8 posted on 11/24/2007 7:03:18 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Mike Darancette; MediaMole; redpoll; Diana in Wisconsin

Dogs would be a snack for a pack of wolves ?


9 posted on 11/24/2007 7:07:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

A few years ago, as a drunk was driving toward us from the direction of a cluster of casinos with his bright lights on, we collided with a deer. The drunk called the Sheriff’s dept., and a deputy arrived within minutes.

The deputy said that his report of the incident would force us to file an accident report with the State (”because all of the deer belong to the State). He was very gleeful about it. He also spoke gleefully about how he wanted to feed the animal carcass to the wonderful wolves at the wolf preserve. ...went on and on about those wolves. He was very much in favor of radically leftist policies.

Having studied and worked with such people in the past, I know that most of them are radical socialists (and against our Second Amendment). Bureaucracy is self-perpetuating, and not all is as it seems to most people.

Big government leftists and corporates apparently have a wish to starve. They should allow our ranchers to do their work without impediments from political sociopaths who’ve watched too many cartoons full of fantasy animals.


10 posted on 11/24/2007 7:12:32 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been)
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To: LucyT

cattle ranchers like Petrich in the Paradise Valley north of Yellowstone...

Although his wolf kills have earned praise from fellow ranchers, Petrich shrugs off the attention, saying he shot the wolves out of necessity, to protect his ranch and his family.

“This is something we’re going to have to keep doing,” he said.

“I didn’t ask for this. ... We’re just going to have to cope with it however we can.”


11 posted on 11/24/2007 7:13:48 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Mike Darancette
They should look into dogs to help guard their herds.

LOL

The old three S's have never failed.

12 posted on 11/24/2007 7:16:18 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: familyop; GladesGuru; Grampa Dave

We taxpayers wasted at least $ 24 million on this introduction of Canadian wolves...now we will pay much more to the beaurocrazies in management fees.

Ted Turner and friends will be happy.

/s


13 posted on 11/24/2007 7:18:13 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Meet the pack that's not a snack:

The Irish Wolfhound

14 posted on 11/24/2007 7:24:14 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: george76
I've been stocking up on varmint class ammo in 30-06 and .270 Win. Idaho is getting close to having a plan in place when the wolves are delisted. Most of the locals have been complaining that they headed out for deer and elk and came up empty. We need a little predator management around here.
15 posted on 11/24/2007 7:26:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: george76

Ranchers won’t be able to just let their “meals on hoof” just wander around without keeping an eye on them. I’m all broken up about that.

To me, this sounds the same as someone complaining that their car got broken into in Chicago when they left a couple of fifties sitting on the front seat.


16 posted on 11/24/2007 7:31:42 PM PST by glorgau
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To: Mike Darancette

Darby Montana,Wolf “ate” ranchers dog.


17 posted on 11/24/2007 7:32:47 PM PST by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: Mike Darancette

Do you have a particular breed in mind? I don’t know of any that are as vicious as a wolf is. Nor do I know any that can fight as efficiently as a pack of wolves can.


18 posted on 11/24/2007 7:32:57 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: george76

I think a four or five year old Holstein would be a good choice ...... for dinner, said the wolves.


19 posted on 11/24/2007 7:35:40 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: B4Ranch

See post 14!

They were bred to chase down (IW is descended from greyhounds) and kill wolves. A male IW is over 6 feet tall on its hind legs and typically weighs about 180 pounds.


20 posted on 11/24/2007 7:39:49 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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