Posted on 11/25/2007 11:50:06 AM PST by ECM
The Nazis were Marxists, no matter what our tainted academia and corrupt media wishes us to believe. Nazis, Bolsheviks, the Ku Klux Klan, Maoists, radical Islam and Facists -- all are on the Left, something that should be increasingly apparent to decent, honorable people in our times. The Big Lie which places Nazis on some mythical Far Right was created specifically so that there would be a bogeyman manacled on the wrists of those who wish us to move "too far" in the direction of Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater.
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Exactly!
In fact, had Goldwater had the misfortune to have been a German or other European in a Nazi-occupied country, he would have been targeted for extermination because his father was Jewish!
Speaking of "the Big Lie," how about this one eminating from CBS 40 years before the fraudulent Dan Rather "expose" on W's National Guard service:
In 1964, immediately after Barry Goldwater was nominated at the GOP convention in San Francisco, CBS fabricated a story to the effect that neo-Nazis in Europe were jubilant when told of the news about Goldwater (whom they would send to gas chambers if they could). It just shows what a sleazy organization CBS was even back then!
Does the book mention Ed Asner? I’ve heard him in a couple interviews over the years and he is one vile unrepentant commie scumbag.
Many left wingers like the Nazis become “right wing” when their atrocities begin to embarrass the left. They do the same thing with Stalin and the Islamofacists. When the natural results of their totalitarian beliefs become known, suddenly they are lumped with the our side as the left tries to distance themselves from those who are carrying out their own left wing beliefs. Come to think of it, I’ve heard Mao and Pol Pot referred to as “right wing” or “conservative” by the left.
But Marxism is such a specific branch of socialism -- many socialists aren't Marxists -- that his contention doesn't hold up.
Of course there are a lot of sloppy uses of the "Marxist" label as well, but since the Nazis rejected Marx as someone of Jewish ancestry, it doesn't make much sense to call them Marxists.
There were a lot of similarities between Nazism and Communism, but the Nazi utopia was first and foremost racial and the Communist one, though far from today's colorblindness, wasn't.
The Nazis were the socialist party of the times. This is left out of today’s history books but nevertheless I have said for 20 years there is not a hair’s difference between nazis, commies, dictators, and socialists. Seems the Rat party draws ever closer to join this group of elites.
Ping!
Please see my post # 61.
Yes, and the same would hold true for some MSM descriptions of the Ahmadinejad cabal in Iran or the Taliban in Afghanistan.
This is old news, but always worth repeating.
I recently heard that interview with Lee Harvey Oswald from 1962. When asked “are you a communist?” Oswald is vehement. “No. I’m a Marxist-Leninist.” I chuckled when I heard that, but upon further reading I discovered he became disillusioned with his “utopian” Russia and thought Cuba would be paradise. It’s because it’s the right kind of marxism in Cuba. Or so he thought.
If you’re going to be under a brutal totalitarian regime, there should at least be nice beaches.
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It shows that Nazism was anti-market and had political affinities with communism. It makes a good case that there was no affinity between Nazism and big business.
I believe there is little difference between National socialism (Nazism) and International Socialism (communism). The former sought an empire with Berlin as its capital city. The latter sought an empire with Moscow as its capital city. A political continuum that stretches from national socialism to international socialism is a very short continuum. It omits the American political experiment and much of British history.
My only objection to the article may be its title! Even siblings have rivalries and these can be great, even leading to war.
The left is not logical and it can be futile to impute logic to people and movements that are driven by emotion (for example resentment of the rich) rather than by reason. Some American liberals have described communism as liberalism in a hurry. Perhaps this provides a logical basis form making distinctions: Liberals want it soon; Nazis want it very soon; Commies want it now.
Hitler had contempt for organizational communists and it was the hatred and contempt of one sect for a similar sect when they are rivals for world domination.
The name of the party was National Socialist German Workers Party. Nazi was short for the German word for National.
He was at least a bit of a Useful Idiot for the communists, whether intentionally or not.
Rush once said that the only difference between socialists and communists is that a socialist will let you live if you disagree with them.
I'll take Hitler's own words over yours about Nazis and Communism/Marxism...
* In the Proclamation of the Government to the German People of 1 February 1933 Hitler said: "Communism with its method of madness is making a powerful and insidious attack upon our discouraged and shattered nation. . .
"This negative, destroying spirit has spared nothing of all that is highest and most valuable. Beginning with the family, it has undermined the very foundations of morality and faith and scoffs at culture and business, nation and Fatherland, justice and honour. Fourteen years of Marxism have ruined Germany; one year of Bolshevism would destroy her. The richest and fairest territories of the world would be turned into a smoking heap of ruins."
That's just one...want more? Do your own research or not.
That says it all. Getting hung up on labels is a mistake.
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