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Report: Islamic Terrorists Wanted to Attack U.S. Base in Arizona
FoxNews ^ | 11/26/07 | staff

Posted on 11/26/2007 8:27:41 AM PST by teddyballgame

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To: teddyballgame

Isn’t this the same base where enviro-kooks have been trying to get inside the wire?

Just a coincidence I suppose.


21 posted on 11/26/2007 8:46:36 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Tennessean4Bush

The Council wants their community, no matter what it cost us citizens.


22 posted on 11/26/2007 8:47:03 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Irishguy

Right. And how much TV coverage can you get from going to a mall and having yourself an old fashioned massacre shooting unarmed civilians, or attacking an army base where people are more than likely to shoot back with guns bigger than yours ?


23 posted on 11/26/2007 8:47:36 AM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

I agree except the big money power elite of both parties want this, and they feel that there are multiple candidates to serve their needs...if one or two go away in an election, they are not concerned. The reasons would have to be more important than the stopping of illegal immigration...we already have the banking system in place, and then NAFTA, and more will follow.

IMHO...I always admit I could be wrong.


24 posted on 11/26/2007 8:47:41 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: teddyballgame

Bump!


25 posted on 11/26/2007 8:50:33 AM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: farlander
Maybe they have been watching too much TV and think the base is the equivalent to 24’s CTU.
26 posted on 11/26/2007 8:54:08 AM PST by Deguello
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To: SwankyC

When I was in the US Army I was amazed at how unprotected are the US Army bases in CONUS. No one carries weapons (other than a few MP’s) except during field exercises and even then no one has any ammo. Access to any base can be had by anyone willing to take a walk through the woods.

The first terrorist attack on a stateside US Army base would result in many casualties for the USA. If the terrorists were smart enough to hit and run, their casualities would be very light. They could kill scores of US soldiers and leave before arms rooms were opened and ammo dispersed.

Hopefully, this close call has already resulted in tighter security.


27 posted on 11/26/2007 8:58:19 AM PST by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Answer: North American Union...

This is an answer but not the answer to our current situation. The debacle of the EU that includes rampant socialism, a bloated taxation system and more bureaucrats than could be buried in one day should serve, IMHO, as a warning against such a venture.
28 posted on 11/26/2007 9:02:46 AM PST by monkeycard (There is no such thing as too much ammo.)
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To: farlander
It really doesn’t make sense to have 60 operatives wasted on something that has almost no terror or PR value, and that would cause an immediate effect of shutting off most of their infiltration routes.

19 operatives killed several thousand civilians on 9/11 and you would have expected that to be reason to cut off infiltration routes too but it hasn't.
29 posted on 11/26/2007 9:07:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: teddyballgame
No problem Certoff has some men out there with maps giving them directions to the base and hand out cookies and cake.
30 posted on 11/26/2007 9:11:18 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Tennessean4Bush
I do not understand the GOP reluctance to embrace the fence, border security, and the illegal alien issue. It is a huge winner among the GOP base and all but the most rabid, anti-American liberal. All it would take is for one attack to take place like this and that wall would be up post-haste and any politician who had equivocated or been against it would face the end of his career.

I don't like it, but it makes perfect sense to me.

The GOP doesn't want to publicly take the position that President Bush has been, at best, neglectful of American security.

If Bush was at all interested in sealing the border, or if we had a Democrat in the White House, the GOP would be all over this.

31 posted on 11/26/2007 9:12:59 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
If Bush was at all interested in sealing the border, or if we had a Democrat in the White House, the GOP would be all over this.

There it is. People too willing to point fingers at the other side while ignoring the behavior of our own.
32 posted on 11/26/2007 9:16:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: farlander

It just doesn’t make sense at all.
I agree - as the opening line states: “might have”


33 posted on 11/26/2007 9:16:42 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: farlander

It’d look good in the MSM and for recruiting.


34 posted on 11/26/2007 9:16:53 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: farlander
Erm... attacking a hard target doesn’t make sense from a terrorist point of view.

I remember reading stories of illegals sneaking through base housing there. Not exactly a hard target.

35 posted on 11/26/2007 9:22:34 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

Weak-kneed sissies afraid of everything and desperate to hold their seat of power. That is their reluctance. We elect spineless weak people and this is what we get.


36 posted on 11/26/2007 9:32:08 AM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: farlander
"...an immediate effect of shutting off most of their infiltration routes."

Accidentally accurate.

Read up in past FR discussions - Huachuca IS an infiltration route. The San Pedro has been reported as a virtual sewer from crossers' trash and effluvia. It isn't coincidence that so many illegal immigrant items come from the Sierra Vista newspaper.

Attacking it would amount to attacking their own freeway.

As to the other questions;
It's obviously close at hand, at the southern perimeter you are practically IN mexico.
Convenient, see 'infiltration route' above & note that there is even an infiltration course set up for training intelligence types.
It's our intelligence center, school, and a major testing ground - that's enough for bragging rights if they were to hit it. (picture headlines about attacking the people who were responsible for Abu Gharb).
There are significant radio communications assets in place as well as the people who are and will be running them in the future.
There are probably a fair number of people the terrorists consider to be traitors - nice potential headlines.
And, the town cozies right up to the gate so intentional collateral damage would be real likely.

Such a target would require a large contingent of loonies so I'm not surprised at the numbers they cite.

I've never understood why we failed to literally fortify Huachuca the first time they busted an illegal on or near federal or tribal property.

37 posted on 11/26/2007 9:35:12 AM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice)
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To: cripplecreek
If Bush was at all interested in sealing the border, or if we had a Democrat in the White House, the GOP would be all over this.

There it is. People too willing to point fingers at the other side while ignoring the behavior of our own.

This is why I won't vote for a RINO - they can do a lot of real damage by making it harder for the GOP to actually support conservative goals. Better to abstain than support someone in a position to do real harm.

38 posted on 11/26/2007 9:37:09 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: teddyballgame

Over 4-years ago:

Meeting Between Border Patrol and Fort Huachuca Commander
03/26/2003
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/876778/posts


39 posted on 11/26/2007 9:39:07 AM PST by donna (Chickens grown in the USA; then processed in CHINA; then sold in the USA. Huh?)
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To: mad puppy
We could do that and it might help, but in addition perhaps we should relocate our bases out of the way of these nomadic tourists. I’m thinking in terms of their civil rights and the offensive nature of these military bases located on our soil, blatantly oppressive symbols of our brutally and arrogance! Why the humanity of it all! Maybe the ACLU could assist us with a proper approach to this ongoing problem. Borders indeed! I’m ready for a group hug and a cry-in.
40 posted on 11/26/2007 9:42:57 AM PST by Eighth Square
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