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FReeper Help Needed. Anyone Know Service Background Of Brigadier General Kerr?
MB26

Posted on 11/29/2007 8:54:37 AM PST by MindBender26

Am working on a write piece for newspaper on last night's stacked deck debate.

Does anyone have any FACTUAL information on military or civilian career of Brigadier General Kerr, last night's Clinton-planted questioner?

Need to know typical DD214 stuff: Time in service, commissioning source, assignments, any combat or combat area time, active duty service other than ACDUTRA, service schools completed (CGSS, War College, etc> decorations received, Branch, (Infantry, Armor, etc.) when he revealed sexual orientation, any outstanding service good or bad, civilian career, etc.

Understand promotion to BG may have been honorary on retirement from Guard, not federally recognized.

Any help appreciated.


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1 posted on 11/29/2007 8:54:39 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26

http://www.ask.com/web?q=Brigadier+General+Kerr&search=&qsrc=0&o=0&l=dir


2 posted on 11/29/2007 8:56:34 AM PST by geo40xyz ((Born a democRAT, Dad set me free in 1952: He said that I was not required to be a MF'ing democRAT))
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To: MindBender26

Commanding General of the Turd Burgling Division


3 posted on 11/29/2007 8:58:37 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: MindBender26

I’m not positive, but as a mamber of the military, he was loathed by Hillary.

Sucking up won’t help.


4 posted on 11/29/2007 8:58:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Moveon is not us...... Moveon is the enemy)
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To: MindBender26
Some info here.

But there’s more. According to Lt. Col. Bill Campenni (USAF, ret), one of President Bush’s squadron mates in the Texas Air National Guard, there is no such thing as the California National Reserve of which Kerr claimed to be a former member.

...

5 posted on 11/29/2007 8:59:34 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Vaquero

General Poofter.


6 posted on 11/29/2007 8:59:50 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: MindBender26

Special Operations Unit: The Gay Berets


7 posted on 11/29/2007 9:00:21 AM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is fool of the year.)
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To: MindBender26

In 1998 he won hot dog eating contest held at the White House.


8 posted on 11/29/2007 9:01:02 AM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: elhombrelibre

notice that the other gay retiree in the NPR roundtable was a “rear admiral”....the joke possibilities abound...


9 posted on 11/29/2007 9:01:34 AM PST by Keith (ANY REPUBLICAN in 2008 -- it's about defeating Mrs. Bill Clinton)
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To: MindBender26
I've heard that the General rank/title he has is really more of an "honorary" thing done at retirement that is only a State thing and has no bearing on his federal military record. It is my understanding he retired as a Colonel. If this is true (still checking on it), he misrepresented himself...surprize, surprize.

In addition, if he was gay during all of those years of service, then he definitely, during his career, did not truthfully fill in his military applications before the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy. Before that, the military DID ask, and if he lied, he should face those consequences as well IMHO.

10 posted on 11/29/2007 9:01:45 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MindBender26
He either likes stuff put up his poop chute or enjoys the idea of someone else doing it while serving in our military.

Pretty much all anyone really needs to know about the guy I think.

11 posted on 11/29/2007 9:01:54 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: MindBender26

Do a google search - very interesting.


12 posted on 11/29/2007 9:02:19 AM PST by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: bert
"Sucking up won’t help."

Dude, it's lunch time here....

13 posted on 11/29/2007 9:02:47 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: MindBender26

I’m wondering if Kerr and Hunter have had run ins in the past. They are from the same part of the country and Hunter has a long history on the armed services committee.

Personally I think Hunter was the real target of the attack. The video question went to Hunter and when Kerr started speaking from the audience he went after Hunter again. Fortunately Hunter handled it very well as I would expect him to.


14 posted on 11/29/2007 9:04:03 AM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: Keith
Rear Admirals are certainly something most Democrats can get behind when they think of supporting the military, especially if they need help packing.
15 posted on 11/29/2007 9:05:06 AM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is fool of the year.)
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To: MindBender26

Here’s a resume he that was posted at the Military Equality Alliance website.

http://www.veteransequality.org/learn/about_us/advisory_board/keith_kerr_bio.htm

Seems he left active duty in 1960 and was a Reservist after that, retiring from the Reserves as a Colonel in 1986 and joining the CA Military Reserves (citizen soldiers) where he achieved the rank of Brig. Gen.

Here’s the Reserves website:

http://www.calguard.ca.gov/casmr/Pages/default.asp


16 posted on 11/29/2007 9:07:01 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: elhombrelibre

touche’! Well done...

If we can win this election in spite of the MSM, it will be a miracle.


17 posted on 11/29/2007 9:11:43 AM PST by Keith (ANY REPUBLICAN in 2008 -- it's about defeating Mrs. Bill Clinton)
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To: elhombrelibre; Keith; Vaquero

Commander of the Special Feces.


18 posted on 11/29/2007 9:12:42 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: michigander
More from your link:

“He retired as a California Army National Guard colonel,” said Campenni. “It is common at Guard retirement ceremonies to give an honorary promotion to colonels to the STATE rank of Brigadier General…[but] it has no meaning other than a fancy certificate for the wall and use of the title at local Guard functions.”

Campenni said the rank of general is not federally recognized and the title can not be used or the rank worn outside the state.

19 posted on 11/29/2007 9:13:27 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: MindBender26

Factually, he is a coward regardless of service. He chose to hide his “status” until he was safely retired and had nothing to lose in standing up for his beliefs. If he truly believed that being gay, in the military or in general, was okay he should have come forward earlier to fight for his position.


20 posted on 11/29/2007 9:13:43 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: keepitreal

“The following file(s) have been blocked by the administrator: /casmr/Pages/default.asp”

Your calguard link didn’t work.


21 posted on 11/29/2007 9:16:08 AM PST by imskylark
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To: Jeff Chandler; Keith; Vaquero

No, seriously, he was the Commander of the Turd Brigade.


22 posted on 11/29/2007 9:18:17 AM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is fool of the year.)
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To: keepitreal

According to his resume he was an officer in Intel during the height of the Cold War. As such, he would have been asked about being a homosexual in order to get his top secret security clearance. He obviously lied, and you can bet your bottom dollar the Soviets knew all about him.

He should be court martialed and have his retirement and rank stripped from him immediately.


23 posted on 11/29/2007 9:18:56 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: MindBender26

I’d like to know how many years of actual active duty he did, and when. And if he was ever in combat.

My guess is he was one of those guys who spent 90% of his “43 years in the military” in the reserves, but doesn’t mention tha fact.

Not to knock the reserves, but I can’t stand guys like this phony who imply that they spent 43 years on active duty.


24 posted on 11/29/2007 9:20:17 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: geo40xyz
most interesting

I think the most informative piece in that list is the SLDN bio, which suggests the good "general" was only on active duty as an enlisted man, and that all of his commissioned service (which supposedly makes him 'credible') was in the reserves. In fact, the guy is basically a college professor! He became a general only in the CA National Guard in early 1991 and served as a BG until 1995.

This guy is hardly a hard core regular army airborne ranger combat veteran.

25 posted on 11/29/2007 9:21:29 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Jeff Head; Squantos; river rat; tet68

C 19


26 posted on 11/29/2007 9:21:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: MindBender26
Try here:

http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/public/general-public.html

27 posted on 11/29/2007 9:23:18 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: MindBender26

I read on another thread here today that he isn’t even a real General. It’s an honorary rank he was given when he retired. It’s only given by the state and not the military.


28 posted on 11/29/2007 9:23:21 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: MindBender26

Given that he lied, I’m betting dishonorable.


29 posted on 11/29/2007 9:25:16 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Dogbert41

He should be investigate.


30 posted on 11/29/2007 9:25:57 AM PST by Dante3
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To: keepitreal

I correct myself: He became a 1LT in 1960. His resume does not state the year he left active duty. Sorry for the misstatement.


31 posted on 11/29/2007 9:27:00 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: keepitreal

Correct myself again:

“Upon release from active duty, he continued to serve in the U. S. Army Reserve and was commissioned a First Lieutenant in June 1960.”

http://www.sldn.org/templates/about/record.html?section=81&record=1151

So he was on active duty as an enlisted man and was only an officer in the Reserves.


32 posted on 11/29/2007 9:31:01 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: MindBender26

I hear he was loyal to his “unit” and that he never left his buddy’s “behind”.


33 posted on 11/29/2007 9:43:55 AM PST by DogBarkTree (The correct word isn't "immigrant" when what they are doing is "invading".)
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To: keepitreal
Your epaulets look FAAAABULOUS!

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34 posted on 11/29/2007 9:46:27 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: MindBender26

http://www.sldn.org/templates/about/record.html?section=81&record=1151

Kerr, BG Keith H., CSMR (Ret.)
Brigadier General Keith H. Kerr entered the U. S. Army as a Private at Fort Ord, California, on 21 September 1953. After completing basic and advanced training, he served with the 513th Military Intelligence Group in Germany during the Cold War. Upon release from active duty, he continued to serve in the U. S. Army Reserve and was commissioned a First Lieutenant in June 1960. His principal assignments were with the 228th Military Intelligence Detachment (Division), Company B, 12th Special Forces, the 91st Maneuver Training Command, the 351st Civil Affairs Command, the 419th Military Intelligence Detachment (Strategic), and the 221st Military Police Brigade. He also was on the staff and faculty of the Sixth US Army Intelligence School (6A ITAAS).

General Kerr is a graduate of the Intelligence Orientation Course, the Imagery Interpretation Course, the Army Intelligence Advance Course, the Special Forces Officer Course, the Civil Affairs Advance Course, the Inspector General Course, the Command and General Staff College, and the U. S. Army War College.

He retired from the U. S. Army Reserve in 1986 with the rank of Colonel and was commissioned in the California State Military Reserve (California National Guard) on 15 March 1986, where his assignments were Inspector General

hi res version
and later, Chief of Staff. He was appointed Commanding General, Northern Area Command, CSMR, with headquarters at Alameda Naval Supply Depot, Alameda, CA and promoted to Brigadier General on 21 February 1991. He held this position until reassigned to State Headquarters on 31 July 1995. General Kerr retired on 1 June 1996 after 43 years of service to the United States and the State of California.

(SLDN is the organization sueing the gov to allow openly homosexuals into the military)


35 posted on 11/29/2007 9:47:14 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: bert

‘’’Sucking up won’t help.”...

Um, I think your language use here may need to be modified, given the subject of the thread...


36 posted on 11/29/2007 9:48:41 AM PST by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: Vaquero
Oh, Jee-thuuuth!

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37 posted on 11/29/2007 9:48:49 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm really made of people!)
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To: MindBender26

Looks like he was only on active duty for some 7 years and got out of active duty with the rank of a Second Lieutenant — he didn’t even make 1st Lt., until after he got into the reserves.


38 posted on 11/29/2007 9:49:14 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: MindBender26
There's a discussion here:

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1932301/posts#1

based on an article at humanevents.com, http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=23698

39 posted on 11/29/2007 9:52:18 AM PST by dit_xi (Duncan Hunter: No nose holding necessary come election day. Right on every issue, right every time)
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To: Dogbert41

Damn Right!!!
Respectfully,
NSNR


40 posted on 11/29/2007 9:52:26 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat (Xin Loi My Boy!!!!)
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To: Dogbert41

“He should be court martialed and have his retirement and rank stripped”

I don’t think the UCMJ applies to Reserve Retired officers. It applies of Regular Air Force/Army/Navy/Marine officers but not retired reservists or national guardsmen, IIRC.


41 posted on 11/29/2007 9:53:14 AM PST by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Jeff Chandler

golly, can I get all that stuff too. I was drafted in ‘66 got out (alive) in ‘68 only got busted once.(took some pictures in a house of ill repute) sold them to the “crutes”. Not gay.....
This piece of mashed poop is as bad as Kerry..

All I get called now is “CEO” ... Retired.


42 posted on 11/29/2007 9:57:21 AM PST by primatreat (Alzheimer's whispers are getting louder. I will not let the door open till this is over .)
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To: Travis McGee

Apparently being a peter puffer is a requirement for promotion to General or Admiral during the Clinton regime. Notice how many are coming out of the closet? Not a coincidence..... More like a prerequisite.....


43 posted on 11/29/2007 10:02:07 AM PST by libertyhoundusnr
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To: MindBender26
There's More to the Keith Kerr Story
44 posted on 11/29/2007 10:03:23 AM PST by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: MindBender26
Here is a link to a bio of him at the pro-gay Soldier's Legal Defense Network.

I have had a discussion with someone this morning who knows General Kerr through Dr. Alvin Gomer, his live-in partner. Note that they were together for 26 years...well back into his Army career. My source confirms that they lived together for most of that time. I know you can't use that in your piece (source does not want to be quoted) but it is instructive.

45 posted on 11/29/2007 10:13:21 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: MindBender26

This is the presser when he lends his name to Kerry’s campaign in 2004 as a military person for Kerry.

Note how he is listed:

Brigadier General Keith H. Kerr (ret.)
USA, Army Reserves
California

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/9/prweb161396.htm

He seems to imply he retired out of the USA Reserves as a Brig. General, since he never mentions that this “rank” is in the California Reserves auxiliary group. Pretty misleading, eh?


46 posted on 11/29/2007 10:13:29 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: FocusNexus

Just what we need. Another phoney General. This is like being the general of your paint ball team. This guy is a Lieutenant who LIED to get into the military. The rest is balony. Someone should dig and find someone who he harrassed while on duty and get his pension yanked.


47 posted on 11/29/2007 10:20:11 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: keepitreal
According to their site, one requirement for joining the California State Military Reserve is that you are “not a member of the active or reserve components of the U.S. military forces”. They further state that you are only subject to be activated by the governor of CA, not through a branch of the military. This seems very “non-military” to me.

http://www.calguard.ca.gov/oc/casmr/faqs.htm

I do not want to knock this organization, that will surely see their share of bashing over their affiliation with Kerr. I am sure that they perform a valuable service to the reserve and guard components in CA, but they do not appear to be part of or affiliated with the US Military beyond their local state ties.

If I am reading their charter wrong, please let me know.

48 posted on 11/29/2007 10:24:41 AM PST by djmv
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To: MindBender26
Oops...that's Servicemembers' Legal Defense Network. I are smart, I swear I are...
49 posted on 11/29/2007 10:25:03 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: libertyhoundusnr

He’s not a real general, any more than Col. Sanders was a real Colonel.

He was a “California” general, an honorific given to colonels in the cal guard on retirement. This is not a real promotion, and he can’t wear the star on a real uniform outside of Cali.

In fact, he got off of active duty in 1960, and was a weekend warrior until 1986 when he got out for good. He’s a phony.


50 posted on 11/29/2007 10:28:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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