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GOP's compassionless conservatism
LA Times ^ | 11/30/07 | LA Times Ed. Board

Posted on 11/30/2007 7:53:49 AM PST by pissant

Even without a question from a talking snowman, Wednesday's CNN/YouTube Republican debate made for lively viewing. It also left an unsettling aftertaste. Eight years ago, George W. Bush began his first presidential campaign by proudly identifying himself as a "compassionate conservative." But on Wednesday, many of the Republicans who aspire to succeed Bush seemed to be competing for the title of "meanest candidate."

In pursuit of that goal, the candidates' hearts were especially hardened toward illegal immigrants, including children. Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-El Cajon) boasted that "I built that border fence in San Diego" and promised that, as president, he would fence off the entire border in six months. Mitt Romney professed dismay at the fact that Mike Huckabee, his fellow former GOP governor, had "fought for giving scholarships to illegal aliens." Rudy Giuliani, on the defensive over charges that New York City was a "sanctuary city" during his administration as mayor, conceded he allowed undocumented children to attend public schools -- but insisted he wasn't interested in giving them an education as much as trying to keep them off the streets "at a time in which New York City was going through a massive crime wave."

It wasn't just the troubles of those in the U.S. illegally whose plight failed to move several of the candidates. Hunter, Huckabee, Romney and Sen. John McCain defended the demeaning policy of "don't ask, don't tell" that still governs gays in the military. Hunter added insult to insensitivity by suggesting that gays can't be allowed to serve because most of their comrades would be conservatives with "Judeo-Christian values." (snip)

In 1999, then-Gov. George W. Bush asked: "Is compassion beneath us? Is mercy below us? Should our party be led by someone who boasts of a hard heart?"

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Of course there were exceptions, according to the Times:

Finally, completing a tough-guy trifecta, Romney refused to say whether the waterboarding of suspected terrorists amounted to torture.

The debate was not devoid of voices of humanity. McCain -- a former prisoner of war -- upbraided Romney for seeming to wink at torture: "Governor, let me tell you, if we're going to get the high ground in this world and we're going to be the America that we have cherished and loved for more than 200 years, we're not going to torture people." The Arizona senator, a supporter of comprehensive immigration reform, also reminded his rivals that children without immigration papers still are "God's children." Huckabee was equally eloquent in defending the idea that able students in Arkansas high schools, no matter what their immigration status, should have been able to compete for scholarships. "We are a better country than to punish children for what their parents did," he told Romney. He's right, but you wouldn't know it from Wednesday's debate.

1 posted on 11/30/2007 7:53:50 AM PST by pissant
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To: 007girl; 230FMJ; abigailsmybaby; absolootezer0; afnamvet; Afronaut; airborne; ajolympian2004; ...

Well, well. The LA Times weighs in.

Give me a PASSIONATE Conservative, not a compassionate one.


2 posted on 11/30/2007 7:54:57 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

More well written ad copy from DNC marketing arm L. A. and Times.


3 posted on 11/30/2007 7:55:41 AM PST by Eddie01
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To: pissant
many of the Republicans who aspire to succeed Bush seemed to be competing for the title of "meanest candidate."

CNN's mission all along.
4 posted on 11/30/2007 7:55:53 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: pissant

Unbelievable. President Bush has proposed enough social liberal spending to make a democrat blush.


5 posted on 11/30/2007 7:56:13 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: pissant

the end of compassionate conservatism? We should be so lucky


6 posted on 11/30/2007 7:57:05 AM PST by ari-freedom (Any theory can appear to explain facts if the theory has enough variables.)
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To: Perdogg

ANd they still hate his guts.


7 posted on 11/30/2007 7:57:13 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Who wrote it tells me what it probably says, and I’m not interested in what they have to say. End of story.


8 posted on 11/30/2007 7:59:03 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: Eddie01

Sums it up.


9 posted on 11/30/2007 7:59:51 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: mmichaels1970

Yes. and it backfired.


10 posted on 11/30/2007 8:00:09 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
Give me a PASSIONATE Conservative, not a compassionate one.

Welcome back pissant. Personally, I'm tired of both the passionate and compassionate conservative. How about a dispassionate conservative? How about one that will think with their brain instead of there 'heart' or their 'soul'? I think we could use a little cold objectivity right about now.

11 posted on 11/30/2007 8:02:33 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: NurdlyPeon

I prefer one that is passionate about America and conservatism, as was the Gipper.


12 posted on 11/30/2007 8:03:36 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: NurdlyPeon

It’s funny, Michael Savage once said that Bush needed more JB than JC, although I don’t necessarily agree on the extent.


13 posted on 11/30/2007 8:04:11 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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To: pissant
The LAT Editorial Board is gonna find out that theyre on the wrong side of this issue with 86% of AMERICANS against amnesty and illegals in general.
14 posted on 11/30/2007 8:04:16 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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Poor, Poor illegals, forced from their own countries at gun point and then denied some social services at the tax payers expense in America...

...What’s that you say? They left their own countries voluntarily, and could easily return for the education, medical and employment benefits offered in their home countries. Well in that case Boo Frigin Hoo.

15 posted on 11/30/2007 8:05:27 AM PST by NavVet (O)
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To: NurdlyPeon
Ditto all of that!

Although to me, dispassionate conservatism is inherently compassionate. But I'm too tired to split hairs right now.
16 posted on 11/30/2007 8:06:34 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter Lifetime ACU Rating: 92 (any combo will do, fellas))
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To: pissant
Looking out for the interests of our country is evidence to liberals, of our disdain for illegals, gays and terrorists. Oh I agree that's so sad. Especially since the Democrats don't seem to care its Americans who suffer when they are the ones being placed at a disadvantage. No one seems to have an ounce of compassion for them.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 11/30/2007 8:07:14 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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'Compassionate conservative' is redundant. All people have compassion. To even use the phrase implied conservatives before its use where heartless. Its use is a surrender, a defeat in itself.

But it wasn't just taking back the definition of conservatism from those that had called it heartless - it was introducing more liberalism into conservatism.

Compassion DOES NOT require government action, no matter what evangelicals tell you.

18 posted on 11/30/2007 8:07:19 AM PST by Swordfished
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To: pissant

If you ask me, “compassionate conservatism” is for the birds. It seems to mean bankrupting and destroying America more than anything else. It’s time to bring back some real conservatism.


19 posted on 11/30/2007 8:08:31 AM PST by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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Hunter added insult to insensitivity by suggesting that gays can't be allowed to serve because most of their comrades would be conservatives with "Judeo-Christian values.""

He is the only candidate with the intestinal fortitude to tell the truth re: fags in the army and unit cohesion. In being direct, Jesse Helms, (R-NC) comes to mind - and I smile. Liberals and FoF's apparently don't like hearing the truth, but that's just how it is.

20 posted on 11/30/2007 8:08:48 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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