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Stepson recalls a night of alcohol (but no $$ for meds)
The Boston Globe ^ | 12/02/2007 | Megan Woolhouse & James Pindell

Posted on 12/02/2007 5:24:31 AM PST by Andy'smom

ROCHESTER, N.H. - In the hours before he allegedly took five people hostage at Hillary Clinton's campaign office Friday, Leeland Eisenberg sat drinking rum and cokes with his stepson in his trailer.

He drank heavily, and in a fog of frustration and delusion, said he could no longer afford his medication for bipolar disorder, his stepson, Benjamin Warren, said by phone last night. Unemployed, Eisenberg had no money to see a doctor; a local hospital turned him away when he went for help, Warren said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: eisenberg; hillary; hillarycare; hoax; hostages; nh2008; plant; scam; universalhealthcare
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To: The Worthless Miracle
You're quite right. My brother uses it as an excuse at every turn. I want to kick him in the butt sometimes...but he's my brother. I really don't think the shrinks help. They almost enhance things he does....like my bro is doing the right thing...to match up with the shrink's diagnosis.

My bro sounds much better when he's off the meds.

21 posted on 12/02/2007 7:08:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Doc Savage

What always got me was that IIRC, Linda Tripp was the last person to see him alive.


22 posted on 12/02/2007 7:10:15 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: I still care
To this guy, holding Hillary’s headquarters hostage I’m sure made perfect sense. It’s classic

You are correct. I feel sorry for him, and anyone who has persistent mental illness. The brain is an organ just like the heart, lungs, kidneys and skin. It's reasonable to think that the brain can be injured, and break down, too.

23 posted on 12/02/2007 7:16:01 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Leisler
It's not funny at all, my freeper friend. It's a tragedy, not a comedy.

If you had a family member or friend who is bi-polar you wouldn't hold this chilling attitude.

Don't judge all these unfortunate souls and their equally unfortunate families by this one person.

If you had to live with or care for a bi-polar sufferer for one year, you would have your eyes opened wider than a Hillary stare.

Leni

24 posted on 12/02/2007 7:20:04 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: I still care
To this guy, holding Hillary’s headquarters hostage I’m sure made perfect sense.

Makes perfect sense to me in any state of mind.

25 posted on 12/02/2007 7:24:40 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: MinuteGal
If you had a family member or friend who is bi-polar you wouldn't hold this chilling attitude.

Agree. It may not show up on a CAT scan but it is real and it can be devastating.

26 posted on 12/02/2007 7:29:11 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Andy'smom
On a previous thread,I predicted this was going to be about free health care. The beast is looking more transparent everyday!
27 posted on 12/02/2007 7:38:15 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Thanks Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: I still care

I had a NCO that I worked closely with for almost four years...returned back to the base three years ago...and had a stroke two years ago...and is now bi-polar. The air force gave him a medical discharge and he gets help...but he really isn’t capable of trusting 100 percent. I had lunch with him four months ago...and felt pretty sorry for him...but based on things he’s done in the past twelve months....you can’t judge him “safe”. His wife is helping him but I doubt she lasts more than three or four years.

I can understand this guy in New Hampshire....but there isn’t much that Hillary or state-mandated healthcare (other than paying for the meds) can do for this guy...if he won’t take his meds.


28 posted on 12/02/2007 7:41:40 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
I can understand this guy in New Hampshire....but there isn’t much that Hillary or state-mandated healthcare (other than paying for the meds) can do for this guy...if he won’t take his meds.

Too many stop taking their meds because, at the time, they think they don't need them any longer. Treating this type mental illness is complicated, because of the vicious cycles these people encounter. They should be monitored all the time, as well as attend groups, or charitable organizations that can help them cope and be with others who have the same or similar illness.

29 posted on 12/02/2007 7:48:40 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: Andy'smom

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=546834&fromPageCatId=5431

He couldn’t afford $4? There is quite a long list of medicines for mental health provided by Wal Mart for $4 for a 1 month supply. His is probably on the list.


30 posted on 12/02/2007 7:50:06 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: MinuteGal
Millions believe in UFO’s. Millions believed and killed for Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot. Mohammad got personal verbal commands from Allah. Ditto Moses.

A trillion now dead primitive people believed in all sorts of powerful forces. People still believe in the talking cures of Freud. Few people belove in aura therapy.

People believe all sorts of things. Parents believe their dolt kid is a genius. Others that their smart kid is a dolt.

I don’t.

31 posted on 12/02/2007 7:51:45 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Leisler

You are wrong on this one. Bi-polar is a major illness, and not difficult to diagnose at all. (in severe cases) It almost always turns out bad. If you ever spent any time with someone bi-polar you would not doubt the illness.

I have experience with bi-polar relatives and through my work. And you say they don’t do anything stupid like step in front of a bus etc., but they do, all the time. Suicide, is a very common outcome of this problem. They crash planes, jump in front of subways, buses or oncoming traffic. They jump off of buildings, they drink Drano, they breath exhaust from the tail pipes of cars. I have seen it all.

Worst part about it is that the treatments are not very good, and most do not like to take their meds. They make up excuses not to, and then they go on a binge. This man sounds textbook to me. Please do some research on this problem. It is no like so many other fabricated diseases. It is for real.


32 posted on 12/02/2007 8:07:19 AM PST by ga medic
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To: ga medic
None of that is distinctive or unique.
33 posted on 12/02/2007 8:18:07 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.)
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To: Andy'smom

Where did he get the money for the alcohol??????????


34 posted on 12/02/2007 8:18:57 AM PST by therut
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To: Leisler
Huh?

Leni

35 posted on 12/02/2007 8:22:03 AM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: I still care

Been there,
done that,
I DO understand,
(Right down to praying I’d come home to a standing house and live pets).

and yes, there is nothing scarier that an OOC Bipolar.


36 posted on 12/02/2007 8:24:29 AM PST by najida (Will you dance at my birthday party?)
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To: cricket
. . .knowing that he is 'disturbed' when not on them; making a conscious decision to not take them; says to me, one should be considered fully responsible for one's own, outcome based decision.

He was listed as a paranoid schizophrenic. One of the attributes of schizophrenia is stopping medication. Often the patient feels that the pills make them worse and the doctors are in on it. They are paranoid.

Over and over in the news you'll see references to crimes committed by schizophrenics who "stopped taking their meds". It is really common.

37 posted on 12/02/2007 8:30:27 AM PST by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: ga medic
Worst part about it is that the treatments are not very good, and most do not like to take their meds. They make up excuses not to, and then they go on a binge. This man sounds textbook to me. Please do some research on this problem. It is no like so many other fabricated diseases. It is for real.

You are right on! Even after researching mental illness, dealing with it daily, as part of my job, is an eye opener. People don't want to be this way, but they have no control over this illness. Unless the meds work, they are completely dependent on others, which they don't normally have. These people need counseling, along with their meds. I work in a non profit organization, affiliated with a church. We provide counseling, psychiatric treatment, groups, meals, and a place for the mentally ill to congregate and/or just hang out during the day. No one is turned away for lack of funds. Nearly all cities have places like this, but, these people need someone to guide them to us.

38 posted on 12/02/2007 8:31:18 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: MinuteGal; Drew68
If you had a family member or friend who is bi-polar you wouldn't hold this chilling attitude.

My wife's sister is. And I/we do feel very sorry. What we have run up against for 30 years is that she not only refuses to deal with it in *any* sort of constructive manner; worse, she uses it as an excuse for everything. Nothing is ever her responsibility, everyone in the family is here for her benefit.

It is very frustrating when, on one hand, she admits she has problems (but refuses to call it bi-polar) and then will list all of the reasons she can't do anything about it. No matter what any of us suggest, she always tells us she can't do it.

I think her mental problems are much broader than the bi-polar thing. Of course, no emotional or mental problem exists in a vacuum.

39 posted on 12/02/2007 8:35:59 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
It is very frustrating when, on one hand, she admits she has problems (but refuses to call it bi-polar) and then will list all of the reasons she can't do anything about it. No matter what any of us suggest, she always tells us she can't do it. I think her mental problems are much broader than the bi-polar thing. Of course, no emotional or mental problem exists in a vacuum.

You are probably right that she has broader problems. And, narcissistic behavior is normal for them. They know they are screwed up, and are frustrated that "no one understands". To an extent, she is correct, but most of us in the business do understand that they have little control over their behavior. Behavior is a symptom of their illness, as is the way they think. Now, if only we could find out how to fix that...

40 posted on 12/02/2007 8:44:05 AM PST by Jaidyn
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